# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/901 "2023-02-23T14:23:09Z")

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From the article, they’re concerned about body armor in use by China and Russia, hence the higher caliber.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/902 "2023-02-23T14:25:10Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> 6.8mm? What kind of anti-American Commie bullshit is _that?_ -

Developed by those Commies at Remington. 😉

> **[6.8mm Remington SPC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.8mm_Remington_SPC)**
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> The 6.8mm Remington Special Purpose Cartridge (6.8 SPC, 6.8 SPC II or 6.8×43mm) is a rimless bottlenecked intermediate rifle cartridge that was developed by Remington Arms in collaboration with members of the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit and United States Special Operations Command to possibly replace the 5.56 NATO cartridge in short barreled rifles (SBR) and carbines. Based on the .30 Remington cartridge, it is midway between the 5.56×45mm NATO and 7.62×51mm NATO in bore diameter. It uses t The 6...

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/903 "2023-02-23T15:12:51Z")

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Actually the one being adopted by the Army for the new NGSW rifles is 6.8x51mm SIG

But don’t worry, the marketeers have made sure to make it ‘murrican-frriendly by giving it the alternate branding “.277 Fury”

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/904 "2023-02-23T15:27:16Z")

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Hmm… 17 grams vs. 12 grams for the 5.56. A bit heavy, but doable.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/905 "2023-02-28T20:11:56Z")

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> **[New Jersey Man Arrested in Newark Airport Over an AR-15 and Fake U.S. Marshal...](https://jalopnik.com/new-jersey-man-arrested-in-newark-airport-over-an-ar-15-1850167970)**
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> It appears he was planning something, but it's not clear what it actually was.

Whoa, the headline for once is totally inadequate. But that’s not all folks -  
"When agents checked his other bags, they found “an ASP expandable baton, a spring loaded knife, a taser, a .40 caliber Glock 22 handgun, a .308 caliber DPMS Panther Arms rifle, and one 5.56 caliber AR-15 rifle, which meets the definition of a machine gun.” If that had been all they found, that would have been one thing. Perhaps he didn’t know the proper process for traveling with firearms. And it’s not like he tried to sneak all that stuff through security in a carry-on.

But that’s not all the agents found. They also discovered “‘United States Marshal’ credentials, bearing Clouden’s name and photograph, and a ‘United States Marshal’ badge.” And according to the United States Marshals Service, Clouden does not and never has worked there."

And he’s a felon, going to Florida. Sounds like a fun vacation was cut short.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/906 "2023-02-28T20:51:53Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> And he’s a felon, going to Florida. Sounds like a fun vacation was cut short.

I though Florida was where we were all sending our excess felons.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/907 "2023-03-03T00:32:07Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Whoa, the headline for once is totally inadequate.

I’d consider the headline to be on the sensationalist side. All the weapons he had were in checked baggage where they could have been legally if they were properly declared and stored. So all the passengers and plane were never in serious danger at least until after he reclaimed his checked luggage at the destination.

I do agree that he was likely planning something in Florida though which may or may not ever be uncovered.

All in all, definitely stupid gun news.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/908 "2023-03-03T02:21:56Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> I’d consider the headline to be on the sensationalist side. All the weapons he had were in checked baggage where they could have been legally if they were properly declared and stored. So all the passengers and plane were never in serious danger at least until after he reclaimed his checked luggage at the destination.
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> I do agree that he was likely planning something in Florida though which may or may not ever be uncovered.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jw3PJftd-_E/maxresdefault.jpg "Get Off My Plane - Air Force One") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw3PJftd-_E)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/909 "2023-03-04T01:29:59Z")

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In which a gun nut Oklahoma state senator decides to do an interview with Jon Stewart to have his ass kicked…  
Eight and a half minutes…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tCuIxIJBfCY/maxresdefault.jpg "Interview with Oklahoma State Sen. Nathan Dahm | The Problem with Jon Stewart") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCuIxIJBfCY)

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/910 "2023-03-04T01:33:09Z")

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I see Jon Stewart is calling the show “The Problem”.  
That’s cool. Here is a musical interlude.A song by JJ Cale called The Problem. I wouldn’t post it if it wasn’t cool.  
(I’m not gonna claim that it’s about anyone specific, but it was written when W was President.)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ur8V309PYhU/hqdefault.jpg "The Problem J.J.Cale") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur8V309PYhU)

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/911 "2023-03-04T02:24:13Z")

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From Christmas 1968: Nothing has changed

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/J39DC9t0I5o/maxresdefault.jpg "The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill (Remastered 2009)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J39DC9t0I5o)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vdvnOH060Qg/maxresdefault.jpg "Happiness Is A Warm Gun (Remastered 2009)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdvnOH060Qg)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sDcDCZGcZj8/maxresdefault.jpg "Rocky Raccoon (Remastered 2009)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDcDCZGcZj8)

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/912 "2023-03-04T02:41:26Z")

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You missed this classic from WWII.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TUOPvtVZwo8/maxresdefault.jpg "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8)

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/913 "2023-03-04T16:12:55Z")

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That is what happens when bullshit meets pure reason. I am in admiration of Stewart that he kept his composure through all of that, and had unassailable reasoning. I would love to hear _anybody_ try to argue these points with him.

What that guy won’t say is, “I take this position to pick up a few extreme pro-gun voters without losing any of my base.”

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/914 "2023-03-06T18:02:53Z")

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Hey, LAPD! You missed a couple!

> **[5 people shot near a gun buyback event at a Los Angeles beach | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/05/us/california-gun-buyback-area-shooting/index.html)**
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> Five people were injured in a shooting at a Los Angeles beach Saturday -- a few miles from where city officials had hosted a gun buyback event earlier in the day, city officials said.

Just for the irony of it.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/915 "2023-03-13T15:20:02Z")

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> **[4-year-old shot and killed by 3-year-old in Houston, sheriff says](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/4-year-old-shot-and-killed-by-3-year-old-in-houston-sheriff-says/ar-AA18yOPO)**
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> A 3-year-old in Houston, Texas, gained access to a firearm and "unintentionally" shot and killed a 4-year-old, Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez said.

A lot of these young punks say they didn’t mean to kill anyone–but who believes them?

It’s time to **Get Tough on Juvenile Crime!**

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/916 "2023-03-13T18:08:07Z")

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Presumably they’ll try him as an adult?

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/917 "2023-03-13T18:14:13Z")

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Her. Both involved minors are female.

> **[3-year-old girl kills 4-year-old sister after finding loaded handgun in Houston](https://www.rawstory.com/houston-sister-shoot/)**
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> A Houston girl shot and killed her older sister after finding a semiautomatic handgun at the apartment they were visiting.The girls were at the apartment with their mother, stepfather and three other adults, and the 3-year-old girl found the loaded...

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/918 "2023-03-13T18:21:29Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Presumably they’ll try him as an adult? -

Nah. Just take away her blankie.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/919 "2023-03-13T18:30:31Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Presumably they’ll try him as an adult?

It’s Texas. I read that as ‘fry him as and adult’. Oops.

I wonder if she’ll get to hold her dolly in the chair?

“My name is Talking Tina… and you’d better use full voltage and hope I die the first time, Jed…”

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/920 "2023-03-14T13:10:09Z")

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I think that’s what started this in the first place.

In Texas, that makes it a justified shooting.

> [@](#):
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> “It just seems like another tragic story of a child gaining access to a firearm and hurting someone else,” the sheriff said. “This time it was a fatal shot, appears to be to her sibling.”

I can’t tell if that’s jaded and cynical, or just resigned.

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