# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/921 "2023-03-14T19:52:08Z")

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I posted Jim Wright’s maxim of “_There are no accidents with guns._ ” to a Twitter thread about that, and got a one-word reply of “_Disagree_ ” from someone.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/922 "2023-03-14T20:25:02Z")

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Depends on the perspective.

The 3 year old had an accident with a gun. The person who left it available for a child to _have_ an accident with didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/923 "2023-03-14T23:28:45Z")

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And since it is, ultimately, their responsibility, it’s not an accident.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/924 "2023-03-15T00:39:01Z")

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To the three year old who has to live with having killed her sister, I would stress that it _was_ an accident on her part. _She_ holds no fault here.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/925 "2023-03-15T03:33:28Z")

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That poor kid is going to be in therapy for life.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/926 "2023-03-15T04:29:43Z")

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They were visiting somebody else’s home where the gun was unsecured. Unbelieveably tragic.

My 4-yr-old daughter once found an unsecured loaded handgun at a close relative’s home during a large 4th of July party. Luckily she came to me and brought me over to it. I had no idea this relative could be so stupid.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/927 "2023-03-15T11:50:11Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> That poor kid is going to be in therapy for life.

She’s three - she won’t likely even remember, unless it is constantly brought up to her.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/928 "2023-03-15T12:23:21Z")

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I don’t have a whole lot of memories of being three, but I do have some, and I would certainly remember shooting my sibling dead.

And even if she doesn’t, unless you are deliberately keeping things from her, she will remember having a sister, and wonder what happened to her. How long would you recommend lying to her? Do you think those lies will help when she inevitably finds out the truth?

The idea that it would have to be “constantly brought up” in order for her to know what she did and feel tremendous guilt over it is a ridiculous assertion.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/929 "2023-03-15T12:48:54Z")

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My cat had to be put down, he was old and suffered from an abcess that eventually broke his jaw, so he could not eat. Heatbreaking, but he was 17 so not a bad run.

My daughter was around 2 at the time. She’s now almost 8, and remembers that cat, and misses him. She knows I took him to die.

That poor kid is in for a really shit life. 3 years old is plenty enough to remember trauma like this forever.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/930 "2023-03-15T13:00:26Z")

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I may be (possibly even likely am) wrong. For her sake, I hope not.

I’m hoping that at worst she remembers she had a sister and she went away. Realizing it is not a documentary, something like Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman in _Rainman_.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/931 "2023-03-15T13:54:13Z")

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I have almost no memories of being 3 years old except for when I had surgery, and I remember being in the hospital pretty vividly. Some memories can stick.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/932 "2023-03-15T17:57:54Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> My 4-yr-old daughter once found an unsecured loaded handgun at a close relative’s home during a large 4th of July party. Luckily she came to me and brought me over to it. I had no idea this relative could be so stupid.

When I was about 10, I used to have a group of ‘friends’ on the street that I’d play RISK with. One kid, and his brother, shared a third floor ( 2 BR and one Bath). Sometimes we’d play there, in his room. One day, he told me that some of the dice were missing and to get them from his older brother’s night stand. I toddled on over and opened the top drawer to find… the dice… And an old fashioned long barreled .38 revolver. Loaded.

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I brought back the dice.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/933 "2023-03-15T19:33:54Z")

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That was RISK all right.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/934 "2023-03-16T06:42:44Z")

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Nevermind

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/935 "2023-03-16T06:51:53Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> That poor kid is in for a really shit life. 3 years old is plenty enough to remember trauma like this forever.

I can’t see any way around this, either.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/936 "2023-03-16T07:39:03Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I can’t see any way around this, either.

The human mind is great at repressing traumatic memories, especially with children.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/937 "2023-03-16T08:57:19Z")

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Maybe. Sometimes.  
But definitely _not_ a large percentage of the time.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/938 "2023-03-16T12:58:34Z")

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And often that repression just hides the reason for trauma, but doesn’t repress the trauma itself.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/939 "2023-03-16T14:11:22Z")

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There may be some hearing loss as well…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/940 "2023-03-17T03:55:39Z")

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In more gun & toddler related news, [Man with 2-year old in car opens fire during road rage incident](https://us.yahoo.com/news/road-rage-shooting-leaves-2-142056108.html).

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