# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/81 "2022-03-07T16:06:46Z")

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I think the takeaway here is that parental rights only apply to conservative parents, because any parents that don’t agree with right-wing radicalism are crazy and don’t deserve a say in how their children are educated.

It’s right there in the article where he says “no parent in their right mind would oppose this.

More Republican hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/82 "2022-03-08T16:14:14Z")

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[6 teenagers arrested in drive-by shooting at Iowa high school that left 1 dead, 2 hospitalized](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/us/des-moines-iowa-school-shooting-tuesday/index.html)

> After the shooting, Des Moines Police detectives carried out five residential search warrants and six vehicle search warrants and recovered six firearms, police said in a news release. Six Des Moines residents between the ages of 14 and 17 have been charged with one count of murder and two counts of attempted murder, according to police.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/83 "2022-03-08T17:23:30Z")

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I’m curious as to who is responsible for providing these guns, and if they will see any accountability. (I seriously doubt it.)

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/84 "2022-03-08T17:46:05Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I’m curious as to who is responsible for providing these guns, and if they will see any accountability. (I seriously doubt it.).

Of course not, making them suffer any kind of consequence would be a serious violation of their second amendment rights and the start of a slippery slope that leads directly to genocide.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/85 "2022-03-08T18:04:33Z")

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gunocide

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/86 "2022-03-20T02:48:28Z")

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> **[Premier Shooting gun range in West Chester Twp. permitted for liquor sales](https://www.journal-news.com/news/area-gun-range-permitted-for-liquor-sales-premier-shooting-owner-says-safety-precautions-in-place/AQBFALCXOZG2BBVLNSQNIQYC3A/)**
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> The West Chester Twp. trustees recently sanctioned a liquor license for Premier Shooting & Training Center after the police chief gave assurances all safety precautions are being taken as the popular gun range plans to expand.

“[Police Chief Joel] Herzog said. “There shouldn’t be any issues here, so we have no concerns with this permit going through.””

Sure Joe, no problem…

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/87 "2022-03-20T02:55:45Z")

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What could possibly go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/88 "2022-03-20T03:59:39Z")

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> **[One person killed and 27 wounded -- including children -- in shooting at...](https://t.co/XhyYPLehc1)**
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> Police arrested one person Wednesday in connection with a shooting Saturday at a car show in Dumas, Arkansas, that killed one person and injured at least 27 others, including several children.

[Michael Che] “In Breaking news from Arkansas… Ten people were shot in Dumas tonight.  
…of course…” [/Michael Che]

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/89 "2022-03-20T04:48:25Z")

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Some appropriate Guild Wars 2 [NPC dialogue.](https://youtu.be/JEKlvPGQn9M?t=91)

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/90 "2022-03-20T05:50:07Z")

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I believe the correct spelling is DumbAss, Arkansas. They’d have gotten more with a liquor license.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/91 "2022-03-20T16:00:06Z")

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South Carolina boater rescues man from lake (twice) then shoots him dead in self defense. No charges filed.

> **[A man was fatally shot by his rescuer after falling in a South Carolina lake....](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/20/us/south-carolina-lake-shooting-self-defense/index.html)**
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> South Carolina prosecutors decided not to file charges in a case where a man who fell off a recreational watercraft was fatally shot by his rescuer, according to the Oconee County Sheriff's Office.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/92 "2022-03-20T16:45:32Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> No charges filed.

Because it was ruledself defense. A man and woman without PFDs fell off their jet-ski. A couple in a pontoon boat rescued them.

For some reason the jet-ski guy then repeatedly attacked the rescuers, to the point his friend shoved him back in the water. They rescued him again, he continued attacking and the pontoon boat captain shot him.

Crazy situation!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/93 "2022-03-20T16:55:12Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> [West Chester approves liquor license for shooting range after assurances from police chief](https://www.journal-news.com/news/area-gun-range-permitted-for-liquor-sales-premier-shooting-owner-says-safety-precautions-in-place/AQBFALCXOZG2BBVLNSQNIQYC3A/)
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> “[Police Chief Joel] Herzog said. “There shouldn’t be any issues here, so we have no concerns with this permit going through.””
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> Sure Joe, no problem…

Just get 'em drunk enough so they can’t load their gun. Problem solved.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/94 "2022-03-20T20:22:40Z")

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According to the story, the bar patrons will get a hand stamp that prevents them from entering the gun range, and guns will be prohibited in the bar: shoot, drink & carouse (unarmed), go home. All kinds of precautions – locks are designed to keep honest people honest, but fail against the person who really want to get past them. Most customers will, as with any business, be honest, but all it takes to fugly things up is the one who is not.

And, of course, the parking lot is DodgeCity.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/95 "2022-03-20T23:36:08Z")

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Life in Colbert-ville…

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/96 "2022-03-23T20:36:31Z")

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A Pennsylvania man stole a gun from his friend’s widow, then used the gun to kill his dog and burn the dog’s remains in a firepit.

Officers found Nikolay Lukyanchikov sitting on a couch on his front lawn, “incredibly intoxicated” with a .25 blood-alcohol level and unable to speak. He was setting fake $100 bills on fire with lighter fluid inside a metal fire pit. On top of the fire pit was a barbecue grate, on which Lukyanchikov had placed a small greyhound dog that had been badly burned. After the fire was extinguished, the officers determined the animal had been apparently shot in its eye.

Lukyanchikov told his roommate he shot the dog to punish it for going upstairs. In a later interview with detectives, Lukyanchikov admitted to the shooting and chalked up his behavior to “having a bad day."

> **[Bucks County man who shot and lit his dog on fire sentenced to up to 4 years...](https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylvania/mc-nws-pa-dog-killing-20220323-fz4ef2ip7rcwjigklrdnqg2udq-story.html)**
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> Nikolay Lukyanchikov, 50, told a judge Wednesday that he was "very sorry" for using a stolen gun to shoot and kill his dog.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/97 "2022-03-23T20:51:44Z")

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> He was barred from buying or possessing a gun due to an involuntary commitment, according to James.
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> “I think it’s fair to characterize him as a dangerous person who demonstrated his use of a gun on an animal,” James said. “And it’s not a stretch to think he’d use it on a human.”

Good thing that barring him from buying or possessing a gun will keep it out of his hands.

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> When his friend died, Lukyanchikov asked the woman if he could have the gun. She refused, and Lukyanchikov later stole it from her home.

Oh wait, apparently guns can be stolen if you don’t secure them.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/98 "2022-03-23T22:27:36Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Lukyanchikov admitted to the shooting and chalked up his behavior to “having a bad day."

Not as bad as the dog. Jeez, what cosmic lottery did this country hit to get all these winners in our midst.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/99 "2022-04-01T15:05:29Z")

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> **[Child Shoots 10-Year-Old in Head After Stumbling Upon Unsecured Gun: Police](https://www.newsweek.com/child-shoots-10-year-old-head-after-stumbling-upon-unsecured-gun-police-1692139)**
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> "It would appear that this was a very unintentional, tragic incident," police in Akron, Ohio, said Friday.

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> “Our assumption is he stumbled upon the weapon, obviously unsecured, and then the unspeakable happened,” Akron Police Lieutenant Michael Miller said, according to WJW. “It would appear, based on what we have gathered thus far, that this was a very unintentional, tragic incident.”

No, the kid had an unintentional, tragic incident, one that will probably haunt him the rest of his life.

The adult who left the gun unsecured where a kid could get it was grossly negligent, putting into place the pieces that resulted in this very _avoidable_ tragedy.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/100 "2022-04-05T15:18:07Z")

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Another mass shooting… this time in Sacramento. This time they actually list in the charges the exact words, “Possession of a Machine Gun”. After years of it being bandied back and forth about what is an assault weapon, this guy says “hold my beer” and uses an actual machine gun. I’m almost wondering what he decided to rip apart dozens of lives with: was it an old M3 ‘grease gun’, a WW2 surplus MP-40, a ‘Swedish-K’, or even a SAW?

Are actual machine guns floating around us or was this stolen from some prop room or museum and modified back to full fire?

> **[Sacramento shooting: 2nd man arrested on gun charge, as his brother appears...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/newsirelandgeneralelection/second-arrest-made-in-downtown-sacramento-mass-shooting-police-say/vi-AAVSJbj)**
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> The second suspect is the brother of the first man arrested Monday, according to authorities

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