# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1001 "2023-04-10T11:47:35Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Military-grade weapons are necessary to overthrow the government, because tyranny. Does he also think abortion=murder? I always wonder at folks who think we need guns to protect us from tyranny, who also think our government has sanctioned the murder of 60 million helpless babies, and who haven’t used their guns to protect us from that. Maybe they’re waiting for the government to do something really bad. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1002 "2023-04-10T12:25:28Z")
No, he doesn’t seem to have strong feelings about abortion. Mostly guns, immigrants, Black people, the homeless, and Muslims. And the gubmint. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1003 "2023-04-11T13:12:02Z")
Sometimes it is the gun’s fault. > Popular handgun fires without anyone pulling the trigger, victims say > **[Popular handgun fires without anyone pulling the trigger, victims say](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/04/11/sig-sauer-p320-fires-on-own/)** > > More than 80 people, including police officers, allege they were shot by their SIG Sauer P320 pistols. Some have lost work, live in pain after serious injuries. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1004 "2023-04-11T13:52:59Z")
> [@](#): > > When he learned of SIG Sauer’s design change, he shipped the weapon back to the gunmaker for an upgrade. But two years later, as he inspected the weapon for a chambered round, it fired a bullet through his hand, Winningham said. Even if this gun does have a flaw that causes it to go off without pulling the trigger (I believe it does), why is your hand in front of the barrel? Was he pushing the slide back by putting his hand on the front of the muzzle to check for a chambered round? If so, incredibly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1005 "2023-04-11T14:06:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > No, he doesn’t seem to have strong feelings about abortion. Mostly guns, immigrants, Black people, the homeless, and Muslims. And the gubmint. So… guns… and the people that he’d like to kill with them? Why no, that’s not a big red flag. /s ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1006 "2023-04-11T14:22:53Z")
Yeah I saw that passage and said to myself “that one’s a bad example”. My spec: doing a press check grabbing the slide by the front serrations but leaving half his hand hanging _forward_ of the end, so when he exerted pressure his unsupported fingers and palm curled around so they went in front ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1007 "2023-04-11T14:39:28Z")
I mean, you put your hand out in front of the faucet to test the temperature of the bathwater, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1008 "2023-04-11T15:13:59Z")
Seems like calling the cops constitutes “by other means”. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1009 "2023-04-17T00:40:35Z")
And the hits just keep on comin… > **[Black Teen Shot in the Head After Ringing the Wrong Doorbell: Family](https://www.thedailybeast.com/family-demands-justice-after-black-teen-ralph-yarl-shot-in-the-head-after-ringing-wrong-doorbell)** > > Ralph Yarl was trying to pick up his younger brothers from a friend’s house, but mistakenly went to the wrong address. > The alleged gunman, who has not been identified, was taken into custody and brought to a police station to give a statement. Placed on a 24-hour hold, he was released pending further investigation, something the chief of the Kansas City Police Department spent much of a short Sunday press conference justifying. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1010 "2023-04-17T01:32:21Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > And the hits just keep on comin… > > [Family Demands Justice After Black Teen Ralph Yarl Shot in the Head After Ringing Wrong Doorbell](https://www.thedailybeast.com/family-demands-justice-after-black-teen-ralph-yarl-shot-in-the-head-after-ringing-wrong-doorbell) > > > The alleged gunman, who has not been identified, was taken into custody and brought to a police station to give a statement. Placed on a 24-hour hold, he was released pending further investigation, something the chief of the Kansas City Police Department spent much of a short Sunday press conference justifying. - From the article. > Still conscious, Yarl ran for help, but Spoonmore alleged that he **“had to run to 3 different homes” before someone came to his aid, and then only after ordering the 16-year-old to lie on the ground with his hands up.** He was hospitalized, but “has a long road ahead mentally and emotionally,” the fundraiser page reads. WTF is wrong with people? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1011 "2023-04-17T04:46:22Z")
Hey, here’s some [sarcasm alert] good gun-related news for you: [One of the two shooters is no longer facing charges](https://www.aol.com/2-dads-exchanged-gunfire-florida-090510206.html): > Two fathers who got in what police say was a road-rage fight in Florida last fall exchanged gunfire and ended up shooting each other’s daughters. > > Now, one of them is facing attempted murder charges while the other won’t have to spend another day in court over the skirmish. > > William Hale, 36, of Douglas, Georgia, and Frank Allison, 44, of Callahan, Florida, were both driving home with their families on Oct. 8 after spending time in Jacksonville in northeastern Florida. > > Both men have different stories about how the confrontation started but both agree that it was fueled by road rage, that they were brake-checking each other, driving too fast and that Allison’s wife flipped off the Hales, according to police records obtained by USA TODAY. _More at the link._ I think Sheriff Leeper had it right: two stupid grown men. But in this case it’s two stupid _armed_ grown men. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1012 "2023-04-17T04:50:02Z")
If I’m reading this right, they’re saying that, in Florida at least, if someone throws a water bottle at you, you’re justified in shooting them dead? It’s a wonder anyone is still alive in that benighted place. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1013 "2023-04-17T04:53:15Z")
You read that correctly. The water bottle has been designated _a deadly missile_. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1014 "2023-04-17T04:58:22Z")
Oh, wait! Not only would I be justified in shooting _them_, if I fire blindly from a moving vehicle and shoot an innocent bystander, that’s also A-OK! Now, let’s see…how about if I’m also driving on that highway and I see two assholes waving guns around and firing wildly - I’d definitely feel threatened, so I’d be free under Florida law to grab my own firearm and start shooting in their general direction, right? (As long as I’m white, that is. But that’s always understood.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1015 "2023-04-17T06:28:06Z")
> [@InternetLegend](#): > > As long as I’m white, that is. But that’s always understood. Of course. That’s because the word _person_ in Florida law (in practice) means _white_ when it benefits the white individual and _Black_ when the non-white individual can be made out as the perpetrator. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1016 "2023-04-17T08:16:53Z")
[Gunmen shoot up resort in central Mexico, killing 7 people](https://www.aol.com/news/gunmen-shoot-resort-central-mexico-234757750.html) > MEXICO CITY (AP) — A band of gunmen invaded a resort where dozens of vacationers were spending the weekend in central Mexico and opened fire, killing six adults and a 7-year-old, authorities said. > > Officials in the Cortazar municipality in Guanajuato state said in a statement that an eighth person was seriously wounded in the midafternoon attack at the La Palma resort. The statement did not speculate on a possible motive. > > After the shooting, the attackers destroyed the spa shop and took the security cameras before fleeing, officials said. Three women, three men and the child died. _More at the link_. Nice job, guys. You took out a 7-year old at a water park. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1017 "2023-04-17T12:00:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > WTF is wrong with people? Well, I guess I can kind of see (squinting) being reluctant to open up when, after hearing gunshots, a bleeding person starts knocking at your door. That being said, I’m certain the folks over in the ‘Good gun news of the day’ thread are wondering how someone shot in the head managed to run to three other houses. And that being said, this is really going to put a crimp in my wife’s campaign to get the youngest son to move back here with his Black boyfriend (or even get them to come visit (the kid went to a rival high school in our school district)). ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1018 "2023-04-17T12:17:11Z")
> [@InternetLegend](#): > > I’d definitely feel threatened, so I’d be free under Florida law to grab my own firearm and start shooting in their general direction, right? Florida law does not require “general direction”; because “freeedumb”. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1019 "2023-04-17T17:25:01Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > … the folks over in the ‘Good gun news of the day’ thread … The last post in that thread was made in August. By _me_, FFS. After Boney wandered off, it seems it just kind of bled out. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1020 "2023-04-17T18:58:58Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > seems it just kind of bled out. [![](https://media.tenor.com/BdSr8AIG-XAAAAAC/drums-ba-dum-tss.gif) ](https://media.tenor.com/BdSr8AIG-XAAAAAC/drums-ba-dum-tss.gif) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=50) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=52)