# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1021 "2023-04-17T22:19:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > WTF is wrong with people? > [@Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3443): > > Pound on my door at 11:30pm and I’ll be answering the door with a gun as well. Of course, I’ll look out the window to see if it is actual Sheriff’s deputies first. People think it’s reasonable to answer the door with a gun in their hand. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1022 "2023-04-18T02:02:44Z")
Woman shot dead after turning in to wrong driveway: > **[Wrong turn leads to woman being fatally shot in Washington County](https://wnyt.com/top-stories/news-conference-planned-in-deadly-washington-county-shooting/)** > > A press conference is planned for 1 p.m. Monday afternoon in a Hebron, Washington County shooting that left a 20-year-old woman dead. > **[Upstate NY woman, 20, fatally shot after turning down wrong driveway](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-upstate-woman-shot-wrong-driveway-20230417-bwf5x4uyxvcaxhdc322kxk6ouu-story.html)** > > Kaylin Gillis was shot and killed in Hebron after she and her friends drove down the wrong driveway on Saturday night. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1023 "2023-04-18T03:00:00Z")
Jesus. Expect Amazon delivery costs to go up soon, when the drivers start demanding hazard pay. Also UPS and FED-EX (USPS will have to hope for approval for a rate increase, which seems unlikely, given that we _just_ had one). ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1024 "2023-04-18T03:09:05Z")
If she hadn’t been hit and killed, this would have made it into the [defense gun use database](https://datavisualizations.heritage.org/firearms/defensive-gun-uses-in-the-us/). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1025 "2023-04-18T07:25:49Z")
And over in Georgia, we have [this from a celebration](https://news.yahoo.com/shooting-gwinnett-baby-shower-leaves-203625858.html): > **Shooting at Gwinnett baby shower leaves father of 6 dead** > > A Gwinnett County family is in disbelief after a deadly shooting at a baby shower claimed the life of a father of six. > > Angel Mendoza, 39, died Sunday morning at a house on Pepperwood Trail in Norcross, according to Gwinnett County Police. > > Witnesses told police that Mendoza, acting out of safety concerns, took a gun away from a guest he did not know who had just accidentally shot himself in the foot. _More at the link_, but basically the idjit who shot his own foot got upset someone took away his lethal toy, so he went and got another lethal toy and came back to commit murder. The dead man and his wife were guests at the baby shower. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1026 "2023-04-18T12:46:52Z")
I mean, you have to expect that anyone who brings a gun to a baby shower to be fucked in the head. Don’t take the gun from them, call the police, have them arrested. Maybe they will have a shootout with the police, but that’s not your problem. The mistake here was treating someone who brings a gun to a baby shower as a rational individual, rather than the psychotic criminal they are. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1027 "2023-04-18T13:15:30Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I mean, you have to expect that anyone who brings a gun to a baby shower to be fucked in the head. If there’s one thing I’ve learned from this thread is that there’s nothing more dangerous than a toddler and, by extension, fetuses even more so. How can you tell (other than the ultrasound) if that fetus has a gat and doesn’t know not to use it? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1028 "2023-04-18T13:21:21Z")
I didn’t say that you shouldn’t bring your armed toddler, that’s a given. It’s adults that can’t be trusted with guns. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1029 "2023-04-18T13:46:17Z")
Yeah. The host decided that the dumbass who shot himself in the foot literally is still okay to hang out at the party. That tells you a lot right there. The main thing it tells you is that if you’re a guest at that party, it’s time to GTFO! ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1030 "2023-04-18T13:48:02Z")
Let’s all remember folks, an armed society is a polite society. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1031 "2023-04-18T14:08:16Z")
Yes, but when the last of that society has been shot dead, who’ll be left to buy the funeral flowers? Won’t anyone think of the poor and suffering FTD Florist? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1032 "2023-04-18T14:13:23Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Won’t anyone think of the poor and suffering FTD Florist? They got taken out by a little old lady with an Uzi in Round 3. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1033 "2023-04-18T14:16:06Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > They got taken out by a little old lady with an Uzi in Round 3. Politely. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1034 "2023-04-18T14:29:10Z")
I kind of identify with Kaylin Gillis, the woman in a car who turned around in an upstate New York State driveway and got shot, as I’ve turned around in driveways more than once. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1035 "2023-04-18T14:38:36Z")
Really, what is this whole thing with being so jacked up on paranoid dread that **anyone** approaching unnanounced is presumed a mortal threat worth firing upon? Way to fuckin’ go, media/socialnets panicmongerers. I mean it’s either that or more people than we thought are cooking meth or running a trafficking ring in their basements and expect a rival’s hit at any time… ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1036 "2023-04-18T15:02:23Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I kind of identify with Kaylin Gillis, the woman in a car who turned around in an upstate New York State driveway and got shot, as I’ve turned around in driveways more than once. I had the same exact thought. A few\* years ago my wife and I got lost on the way to a party in a rural area. We were going down a narrow dirt road (with no cell reception of course) and finally decided to turn around, but the only way to do so was to drive up a dirt driveway in front of a farmhouse. Worse, it was getting dark and my wife was driving at the time, but didn’t want to drive back in the dark - so we got out of the car and switched. \*Holy crap, it’s closer to a decade than a few years, now. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1037 "2023-04-18T15:04:41Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Really, what is this whole thing with being so jacked up on paranoid dread that **anyone** approaching unnanounced is presumed a mortal threat worth firing upon? That’s exactly what happens when you take a conclusion and then look for evidence to support it, instead of looking at the evidence and finding out what conclusions it leads to. If you’ve decided that guns are necessary for self defense in 2023 America, then you have to jump through a whole bunch of illogical hoops to justify that. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1038 "2023-04-18T15:45:30Z")
People read blogs like the positive gun news of the day thread and see all these threats to them. It makes then paranoid, thinking that anyone that comes to their house is a threat, it makes them think that answering the door with a gun in their hand is prudent, that shooting people in their car in your driveway is justified, it makes them think that bringing a gun to a baby shower is reasonable, and that having that gun taken after having demonstrated irresponsibility is a capital crime worth murder. The gun culture feeds on itself, turning what could have been self actualized people with agency into cowards who depend on violence whenever they are scared, which is often. It’s little different from any other form of radicalization. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1039 "2023-04-18T17:47:25Z")
To be fair, the PGNOD thread when it was alive mostly addressed actual confrontations. But a lot of the RW media and nets (and elected officials) seem bent on portraying that there has _already been a collapse of the expectation of peaceful coexistence_ and that all around you “the cities are burning” and roving gangs of punks, thugs, zombies, or zombie punk thugs are running wild — add irresponsible “2A community” influencers blathering about how not being armed is a choice to be “prey”, season with a culture of “not being disrespected”… and, well… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1040 "2023-04-18T18:04:50Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > season with a culture of “not being disrespected”… and, well… you get people shooting each other at [Chuck E Cheese](https://www.whio.com/news/trending/29-year-old-mother-5-shot-killed-busy-chuck-e-cheese/5ALT7NOGGBGNRATXVCPRGLBGUI/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=53)