# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1181 "2023-05-09T15:28:18Z")

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The live in fear. They are also terrified that if their kids learn about homosexuality, they will be gay, if they learn about transgender, they will be trans, if they learn about the history of slavery and civil rights, they will hate their parents.

It’s all about hate and fear, and violence is the only answer they can think of.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1182 "2023-05-10T02:07:01Z")

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> **[2-year-old standing in front of door is killed in drive-by shooting, Texas...](https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article275220531.html)**
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> “This is a pathetic act, where no consideration was taken about who might be hurt as a result of the shooting,” the police chief said.

Chief Keystone Kop believes “she was in the wrong place at the wrong time” and that she was not the target.

With that kind of brain power, this will be solved in no time.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1183 "2023-05-10T02:25:17Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> …if they learn about the history of slavery and civil rights, they will hate their parents.

Well, they probably have a point here.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1184 "2023-05-12T00:20:36Z")

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> **[Cops opened fire on suicidal man ‘like cowboys from a John Wayne movie,’ new...](https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/cops-opened-fire-on-suicidal-man-like-cowboys-from-a-john-wayne-movie-new-lawsuit-claims/)**
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> Trevor Mullinax, 29, was contemplating suicide when South Carolina deputies pulled up and “immediately” opened fire, striking him nine times in a barrage of 50 bullets, a new lawsuit cl…

People are so ungrateful: guy considering suicide, sheriff’s deputies try to help him achieve his goal by firing 50 shots at him–and now the guy is filing a lawsuit?

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1185 "2023-05-12T06:25:57Z")

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With 50 bullets, and only an 18% hit rate, they did a damn poor job of helping Mr. Mullinax die.

Also, his fucking mother was on the scene - how did she not get hit by one of the stray 41 bullets?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1186 "2023-05-12T11:38:26Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> his fucking mother was on the scene - how did she not get hit by one of the stray 41 bullets?

I was wondering about that also since the early part of the article led me to think she was in the trunk with him. Later, it said she talking to him through a window and took cover when they opened fire. The first couple of shots were probably relatively on target, so she’d have had time to drop to the ground.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1187 "2023-05-12T19:55:18Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Also, his fucking mother was on the scene - how did she not get hit by one of the stray 41 bullets?

“Barney Fife’s Law”…?

( just lidding; there is no such law )

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1188 "2023-05-13T13:31:28Z")

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> **[Texas mom killed by stray bullet as she slept in bed with son](https://news.yahoo.com/texas-mother-killed-stray-bullet-003337367.html)**
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> Bethany Mefford was inside her apartment in the Houston suburb of Humble when she was struck by gunfire

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1189 "2023-05-13T14:27:32Z")

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> Mr Lewis, who is being held on a $75,000 bond on manslaughter charges, told authorities that he fired his gun into the ground to scare away burglars breaking into vehicles at the complex. He then fired again because they “were not moving fast enough for him,” an affidavit for his arrest stated.

So, he was being an irresponsible gun owner from the beginning. Even if his actions hadn’t killed someone, he should still be arrested, have his guns taken away, and spend a spot of time in jail. Same if he had hit any of the supposed “burglars”.

Were it not for the “accidental” homicide involved, this would probably qualify for one of the self reported “Defensive Gun Uses” that gun advocates like to pretend is data that supports their position.

At a guess, there weren’t any actual burglars, either.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1190 "2023-05-13T21:38:24Z")

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Full disclosure, I’m a gun owner and have participated in many threads about pros/cons, attitudes for and against. So I’m biased, and one of the few that think responsible gun ownership is possible, but with rights comes responsibilities.

I still read this thread though, because 99+% of what gets reported here is indefensible, just so you know I am not in any way judging you. But I figured I had a chance to share a slightly lighter-hearted Stupid Gun News of the Day before the next mass shooting makes us all crazy again.

[https://www.ksn.com/news/state-regional/dont-fish-with-a-gun-in-kansas-game-wardens-say/](https://www.ksn.com/news/state-regional/dont-fish-with-a-gun-in-kansas-game-wardens-say/)

> Someone allegedly decided to use a 9 mm gun to catch fish in Garden City on Tuesday, but they got caught by game wardens.

There’s a slightly more detailed version on CNN but after their Trump Rally (that they call a Town Hall) I’m trying to avoid giving them links. 🙂

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1191 "2023-05-13T21:51:55Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> So I’m biased, and one of the few that think responsible gun ownership is possible, but with rights comes responsibilities.

I don’t think you are one of the few, I think most of us think that. Problem is that you don’t _have_ to be responsible to own a gun.

Most (but not all) of the stories in this thread are of legal gun owners who were not responsible, and enough of these stories do tend to make a _few_ wonder if responsible gun ownership is in fact possible.

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> > Someone allegedly decided to use a 9 mm gun to catch fish in Garden City on Tuesday, but they got caught by game wardens.

That’s certainly irresponsible, but much less so than many stories here. And fortunately, no one (other than maybe some fish) got hurt.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1192 "2023-05-13T22:09:19Z")

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“…Shoot the streams…”  
“Whoa whoa whoa Egon… you said shooting the streams was bad…”

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1193 "2023-05-13T22:25:10Z")

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I’m not anti-gun, per se. I believe the 2nd Amendment has been far too broadly interpreted and we should be able to regulate gun ownership to a greater extent than we do, but realistically, that ship has sailed.

However, now that everyone who wants one can own and, depending on the state, carry any type of firearm they want with little or no training, can we as a society please require them to show some responsibility to go along with the unfettered right? Sure, you can own your Deluxe Mass Child Killer, but if you leave it out unsecured, you should be held criminally responsible when one of your children kills someone with it. If you spray bullets indiscriminately in the general direction of someone you think is a threat, you should be held criminally liable for the six-year-old you shoot “accidentally.” If you don’t secure your firearms in a reasonable manner, you should bear some liability for the crimes that are committed with it when it’s stolen.

I just want to see some responsibility attached to all that glorious exercise of rights.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1194 "2023-05-13T23:17:33Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> But I figured I had a chance to share a slightly lighter-hearted Stupid Gun News of the Day before the next mass shooting makes us all crazy again.
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> [https://www.ksn.com/news/state-regional/dont-fish-with-a-gun-in-kansas-game-wardens-say/](https://www.ksn.com/news/state-regional/dont-fish-with-a-gun-in-kansas-game-wardens-say/)
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> > Someone allegedly decided to use a 9 mm gun to catch fish in Garden City on Tuesday, but they got caught by game wardens.

Out there in the internet, right now in a comments section there is a lively debate on the proper caliber for freshwater fishing, I just _know_ there is…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1195 "2023-05-13T23:43:10Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> > [@ParallelLines](#):
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> > But I figured I had a chance to share a slightly lighter-hearted Stupid Gun News of the Day before the next mass shooting makes us all crazy again.
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> > [https://www.ksn.com/news/state-regional/dont-fish-with-a-gun-in-kansas-game-wardens-say/](https://www.ksn.com/news/state-regional/dont-fish-with-a-gun-in-kansas-game-wardens-say/)
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> > > Someone allegedly decided to use a 9 mm gun to catch fish in Garden City on Tuesday, but they got caught by game wardens.
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> Out there in the internet, right now in a comments section there is a lively debate on the proper caliber for freshwater fishing, I just _know_ there is… -

This is the only proper boomstick for fish.  
[![](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HDEP28/tnt-dynamite-bomb-isolated-on-white-background-HDEP28.jpg) ](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HDEP28/tnt-dynamite-bomb-isolated-on-white-background-HDEP28.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1196 "2023-05-14T00:01:11Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> you said shooting the streams

Ahem… _Crossing_ the streams.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1197 "2023-05-14T00:17:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Mr Lewis, who is being held on a $75,000 bond on manslaughter charges, told authorities that he fired his gun into the ground to scare away burglars breaking into vehicles at the complex. He then fired again because they “were not moving fast enough for him,” an affidavit for his arrest stated.

Nice way to make you’re lawyer’s job easier!  
'So, we’ll be looking for a plea bargain ‘cause those two pieces of evidence take pretty much every defense except insanity off the table.’

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1198 "2023-05-14T00:26:42Z")

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The slain woman’s aunt sums it up:

> Ms Higinbotham said that while she supports gun rights, she believes it is important owners are responsible.
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> “Everybody that I know is very self-conscious and very careful with their weapons,” she said. “I live in Pennsylvania, which is a far cry from Texas. Like it just seems that down there they’re a little less caring as to where they’re pointing or where they’re not even aiming and then just pulling the trigger.”

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1199 "2023-05-15T04:31:02Z")

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> [@InternetLegend](#):
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> can we as a society please require them to show some responsibility to go along with the unfettered right?

Woah, woah, woah! That is a very slippery slope you are trying to go down there. The next step after demanding responsible gun ownership is a complete and total ban of all firearms! How dare you!

/s

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1200 "2023-05-16T16:33:27Z")

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20-year old pisses in a Sonic parking lot, employee comes out to address the situation, 12-year companion of the 20-year-old **[shoots the employee to death](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2023/05/16/preteen-used-ar-style-gun-during-killing-of-sonic-employee-in-north-texas-police-say/)** with an assault rife. Multiple firearms were recovered, the two were arrested for murder.

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