# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1201 "2023-05-16T16:48:47Z")

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You know what the worst part is?

You called it an _assault rifle_!

If you can’t tell the difference, then you can’t have an opinion on whether 12 year olds should be shooting Sonic employees.

/s

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1202 "2023-05-16T16:56:14Z")

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To be precise, the story says he was shot with an “AR-15 **style**.22 rifle.”

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1203 "2023-05-16T17:38:23Z")

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Oh, well, that’s all right then. Just another well-regulated militia member exercising his constitutional right to put down tyranny.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1204 "2023-05-16T18:41:30Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> /s

Thank you for that. CookingWithGas’s Law of Satire says that no matter how ridiculous or outrageous you try to make a satirical statement, there will be someone who would make that statement in all seriousness.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1205 "2023-05-16T18:51:43Z")

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Oh, now you are just plagiarizing Poe.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1206 "2023-05-16T22:30:11Z")

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Channeling, not plagiarizing. We must always remember to use the correct “woke” terminology. (To be clear, I’m not mocking woke; I’m mocking the rightists’ own use of the word.)

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1207 "2023-05-16T22:43:32Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> To be precise, the story says he was shot with an “AR-15 **style**.22 rifle.”

Note that this is likely a journalist rounding down or misunderstanding an actual AR-15 or AR-15 style calibre of .223, a lot nastier round than the usual impression of a .22 round as just something used in plinking at tin cans, and essentially the civilian version of the 5.56mm round used by the military versions of the gun.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1208 "2023-05-16T22:47:53Z")

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I’m reserving judgement on that. The victim was hit 6 times, and lived to make it to the hospital. That sounds more like .22 than .223. Plus, 6 shots hitting from an AR-15 in the hands of a 12 year old? Unlikely. From a .22? Easily.

Of course, time of death may be when somebody certified him dead. So he could easily have died on the way.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1209 "2023-05-17T00:49:46Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I’m reserving judgement on that. The victim was hit 6 times, and lived to make it to the hospital. That sounds more like .22 than .223.

And there are a whole bunch of “AR15-_ **style** _” rifles in .22LR of course. 'cause Og forbid you be seen with something that _looks_ like it’s for backyard plinking or picking off squirrels when you can look tacticool. And the young’uns need to grow up used to swinging around _America’s Gun_ .

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1210 "2023-05-17T01:18:10Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> The victim was hit 6 times, and lived to make it to the hospital.

Do they say six hits anywhere, or just six shots? I only see that the 12-y/o fired six shots and some of them hit the guy.

I am also a little on the edge on this one. There are pictures of the victim that show a somewhat-inked face, including at least two teardrops (below the outer corner of the right eye). That could be meaningful.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1211 "2023-05-17T03:01:29Z")

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What’s the proper response after a school shooting? [Tennessee has the answer for you!](https://www.aol.com/news/school-shooting-tennessee-governor-signs-180637561.html)

> **After school shooting, Tennessee governor signs bill to shield gun firms further against lawsuits**

I am so glad I no longer live in that state.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1212 "2023-05-17T03:39:36Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Oh, now you are just plagiarizing Poe.

I had been unaware of that! I will now give credit where it’s due.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1213 "2023-05-17T03:40:33Z")

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> [@Bookkeeper](#):
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> journalist rounding down or misunderstanding

Maybe. But let’s leave all descriptions of the weapon aside. A 12-year-old use a firearm to kill a man.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1214 "2023-05-17T03:48:51Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> And there are a whole bunch of “AR15-_ **style** _” rifles in .22LR of course. 'cause Og forbid you be seen with something that _looks_ like it’s for backyard plinking or picking off squirrels when you can look tacticool. And the young’uns need to grow up used to swinging around _America’s Gun_ .

I had assumed it was something like [this](https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/m-p-15-22-sport-moe-sl-matte-black), the S&W M&P 15-22, which looks just like any other black tactical AR platform, just chambered in .22LR. This isn’t the only such option by any means, but gives you a visual representation that would very easily match the description in the news.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1215 "2023-05-19T23:41:40Z")

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There are also adapters to allow an AR to shoot .22 cal. Mostly to save money on ammo when practicing.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1216 "2023-05-21T09:36:47Z")

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Is the toddler a bad guy with a gun, or a good guy with a gun? It’s so confusing…

> **[3-year-old shoots wanted murder suspect, leading to his arrest, Indiana cops say](https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article275606171.html)**
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> The child also shot their mother, according to local news reports.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1217 "2023-05-21T17:51:06Z")

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6 of one half dozen of the other?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1218 "2023-05-21T21:52:04Z")

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Good guy with a bad gun!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1219 "2023-05-21T22:33:47Z")

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Wasn’t there a gun wielding toddler from Indiana in this thread earlier? I wonder if it’s the same one.  
This story features a grenade instead of a gun. Indiana, Y’all!

> **[Dad killed in grenade blast inside Lakes of the Four Seasons, Indiana home...](https://abc7chicago.com/man-dies-from-grenade-lakes-of-the-four-seasons-crown-point-indiana-news-explosion/13280004/)**
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> Bryan Niedert's two teenage children were injured in the blast, police said.

(If you found something that you thought could be a grenade, pulling the pin seems like a mistake. But that’s me.)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1220 "2023-05-21T22:35:34Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Wasn’t there a gun wielding toddler from Indiana in this thread earlier? I wonder if it’s the same one.  
> This story features a grenade instead of a gun. Indiana, Y’all!  
> [Crown Point Indiana news: Bryan Niedert ID'd as 1 killed in Lakes of the Four Seasons grenade explosion near 3400 W. Lakeshore Dr - ABC7 Chicago](https://abc7chicago.com/man-dies-from-grenade-lakes-of-the-four-seasons-crown-point-indiana-news-explosion/13280004/)  
> (If you found something that you thought could be a grenade, pulling the pin seems like a mistake. But that’s me.) -

Well, how would _you_ check if it’s a grenade?

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