# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1241 "2023-05-31T23:26:40Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > the sheriff said there was no evidence the teen ever pointed the weapon at Chow or his son. Not advocating for the back-shooting Chow, but is that Po-leece doctrine, see a gun and shoot someone? I think it might be. 'Cuz if I were a Po-leece, I wouldn’t wait for The Point. Po-leece was the accepted pronunciation in Baltimore, in the '60s. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1242 "2023-06-01T00:39:19Z")
> [@Dandan](#): > > Not advocating for the back-shooting Chow, but is that Po-leece doctrine, see a gun and shoot someone? I think it might be. Only if the someone is black. Plenty of instances of gun wielding whites who are taken into custody. > **[Yet another armed white shooter is taken alive - The Bay State Banner](https://www.baystatebanner.com/2021/03/25/yet-another-armed-white-shooter-is-taken-alive/)** > > Robert Aaron Long, the alleged mass shooter in Atlanta, is taken into custody without incident. His non-violent capture is not a fluke, aberration, or an anomaly. We have seen this time and again, a white mass killer guns down multitudes in shopping... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1243 "2023-06-01T01:58:27Z")
I just saw [this on my Twitter feed](https://twitter.com/yamane_patricia/status/1663910351891574784). > Here’s the deal: We start naming mass shootings the way we do hurricanes but after Republicans who accept payments from NRA. _(I removed the “at” symbol in front of NRA. ~Monty)_ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1244 "2023-06-03T00:03:14Z")
Maybe this should go into the PGNotD thread. [Governor Bill Lee](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/gun-law-push-tennessee-governors-office-memo-nra-99781540) of Tennessee is trying to get a gun control law into the works, to get guns away from people who might harm themselves or others. This the guy who recently championed open-ended permitless carry. Naturally he is facing massive pushback from anyone that matters in the state. > [@](#): > > Gov. Bill Lee’s administration accused the National Rifle Association of wanting to use involuntary commitment laws “to round up mentally ill people and deprive them of other liberties.” I mean, it (a red flag law) is pretty weak, but it is not nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1245 "2023-06-13T13:53:25Z")
Be careful where you celebrate. > **[9 wounded in Denver shooting after Nuggets win](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37846096/nine-wounded-denver-shooting-nuggets-win-nba-title)** > > Nine people were wounded in a mass shooting early Tuesday in Denver in an area where basketball fans had been celebrating the Nuggets' first NBA title win. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1246 "2023-06-17T14:02:12Z")
> **[Prosecutor: Clermont County father executed his sons, ages 7, 4 and 3, with...](https://www.wlwt.com/article/chad-doerman-boys-shot-clermont-county-court-appearance/44221857)** > > The father facing aggravated murder charges in the shooting deaths of his three young sons appeared in court Friday. > [@](#): > > Gast said the mother was shot in the hand in an attempt to protect her children. > > Gast said one of the boys was able to flee but said Doerman “hunted that boy down, brought him back to the property and executed him in front of witnesses.” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1247 "2023-06-17T15:26:55Z")
Why? Why? He’d planned it for months. He did it in front of his wife, their mother, and didn’t kill her. Why? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1248 "2023-06-17T19:49:04Z")
Even if it makes no sense, he must have said something… ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1249 "2023-06-17T21:10:05Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > He’d planned it for months. He did it in front of his wife, their mother, and didn’t kill her. Why? My guess is he wanted to punish her. That’s often the case when something like this occurs. Perhaps she’d been planning to leave him. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1250 "2023-06-17T21:18:04Z")
That was my guess as well, though these guys often go on to killing the bitch. The story didn’t give any reason. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1251 "2023-06-18T01:07:40Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > That was my guess as well, though these guys often go on to killing the bitch. [Moderating] Let’s try not to use gendered insults when discussing the victim of horrific domestic abuse, please. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1252 "2023-06-18T03:00:54Z")
Oh, sorry – I should have put that word in quotes, to indicate it’s how the killer would regard her. Would that have been sufficient? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1253 "2023-06-18T03:36:17Z")
I don’t think that it would have stopped the bullet… ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1254 "2023-06-18T17:17:21Z")
Okay, this should win [stupid gun news of the week](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/18/us/illinois-man-shot-self-in-leg-felony-charges-trnd/index.html), at least: Idjit not only shot himself but also got arrested for firearms felonies. > An Illinois man thought his home was being burglarized, grabbed his handgun and opened fire. But the Lake County Sheriff’s Office says it all was a dream and the 62-year-old woke up to find while his home was fine, he’d shot himself in the leg. > > Now, Mark Dicara is facing felony charges over the April incident. > > Dicara was arrested Monday on charges of possession of a firearm without a valid Firearm Owners Identification card and reckless discharge of a firearm, the Lake County Sheriff’s Office said in a news release. Heh. Editing to add this bit from the story: > The bullet tore through Dicara’s leg and hit his bed, authorities said. > > “Fortunately, the round did not travel through a shared wall with Dicara’s neighbors,” the release read. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1255 "2023-06-19T04:01:26Z")
[This one](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/funeral-company-owner-allegedly-shoots-2-childs-burial-service-killing-rcna88319) is about a week and a half old but it really hurts my head. A funeral director became angry during a burial service, spit on the minister over a nebulous business dispute, and ended up shooting a man to death who had stepped in to try to calm the situation while grazing a woman.        The mourners were gathered to bury a 10-year-old girl who encountered a hail of bullets while riding in a car on Mother’s Day. The man who was killed was a close family friend, while the woman who was grazed and the spat-upon minister were relatives.        The shooter jumped into his car and fled the scene but was later apprehended and charged with murder. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1256 "2023-06-21T13:05:37Z")
> **[Records: Man shoots Amazon driver at home near southwest Columbus](https://www.10tv.com/article/news/crime/court-records-man-shoots-amazon-driver-southwest-columbus/530-e3857db4-e926-4858-8ac0-7ee023017548)** > > Keith Grubb was arrested and is charged with one count of felonious assault. > [@](#): > > The Franklin County Sheriff’s Office says the Amazon driver arrived in the 3600 block of Norton Road to deliver a package. > > As the driver was walking away, court records say Keith Grubb left the home holding a shotgun and fired it. The employee suffered injuries to the face and rib cage and his vehicle was damaged. WTF is wrong with people? ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1257 "2023-06-21T13:58:46Z")
I don’t know what “felonious assault” is but how is firing a shotgun at someone not attempted murder? Also, BTW, on another note: > “We’re deeply concerned by the incident involving our delivery partner and are grateful he’s home and recovering. We’ll continue cooperating with authorities as they investigate,” said Alisa Carroll, a spokesperson for Amazon. It sounds like he may have been a contractor, rather than an employee, and Amazon is not going to do shit for him except be grateful. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1258 "2023-06-21T14:40:57Z")
ISTM that, at the very least, when someone at a particular address fires a weapon at a delivery person for a private company, that individual and residence should immediately go on a “red flag” list for that company. Certainly the local delivery workers should have access to that information. You shoot at a delivery worker, okay, no more deliveries for you. Or for anyone else at your address until you move out. > [@CookingWithGas](#): > > I don’t know what “felonious assault” is but how is firing a shotgun at someone not attempted murder? IANAL, but I think any type of murder charge presumes what’s called “specific intent to kill”. Plenty of (stupid and criminal) people deliberately shoot at other people to frighten and/or injure them, without intending to actually bring about their victim’s death. My guess would be that the prosecutor in this case didn’t want to risk not being able to make the murderous-intent part of the charge stick, so they went with the lesser (but also quite serious, AFAICT) charge of felonious assault. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1259 "2023-06-21T14:45:13Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > You shoot at a delivery worker, okay, no more deliveries for you. Or for anyone else at your address until you move out. And often times for your neighbors as well. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1260 "2023-06-21T15:08:55Z")
Red flag? I assume after this, he’s banned from Amazon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=64)