# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/121 "2022-04-10T13:11:38Z")

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> [@keeganst94](#):
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> They come with some caveats

IMHO, I think those ‘caveats’ might just have gotten some stupid kids killed.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/122 "2022-04-10T17:15:23Z")

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I don’t think that hoodie is going to protect his privates. Anyone stupid enough to shove a gun down the front of their trousers like that shouldn’t be trusted in a video.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/123 "2022-04-10T18:53:42Z")

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If sporting gear has to be bulletproof in America just so normal people can use it as a crutch to try to be brave as they go about their daily business, we may have already lost the country to fear and stupidity.

Also, isn’t this just ‘escalation’?

Magazines say their guns aren’t powerful enough. Towns authorize the change to 9mm.

Magazines say that single-stack isn’t enough bullets.  
Suddenly all the old guns get sold & new guns are bought.

Magazines say “protect yourself from bullets” and sell bulletproof street clothes.  
Everybody runs and buys some.

Cops say their guns don’t work against suspects because of bulletproof gear.  
New more powerful bullets and guns are marketed and everyone goes out and buys one.

Magazines say, "Is your child at risk? Our new Super bullet proof street clothes protect from all bullets. Everybody runs out and buys some.

And Wayne LaPierre, the Devil behind the counter of ‘Needful Things’,  
laughs out loud and counts his money…

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/124 "2022-04-11T14:17:58Z")

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Looks like there were not quite enough good guys with guns.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/125 "2022-04-12T18:27:39Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> If sporting gear has to be bulletproof in America just so normal people can use it as a crutch to try to be brave as they go about their daily business, we may have already lost the country to fear and stupidity.

Really ought to be standard gear for food service workers.

> **[Shooting at Phoenix Wendy's: Suspect arrested after teenage fast-food worker...](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/shooting-at-phoenix-wendys-suspect-arrested-after-teenage-fast-food-worker-was-shot-in-head)**
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> A teenage worker was hurt after being shot in the head following a dispute with a customer at a fast-food restaurant in Phoenix.

> **[22-year-old killed while working at Burger King drive-thru](https://abc11.com/burger-king-shooting-florida-man-shot-at-worker-and-killed-over-wait-time/6352629/)**
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> The new employee was shot and killed after an alleged disgruntled customer returned to the restaurant.

> **[4 arrested after George Webb employee shot in the face during argument in...](https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/2-charged-after-george-webb-worker-was-shot-in-the-face-over-food-service-complaint)**
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> Wauwatosa police arrested four women after a 26-year-old man was shot in the face during an argument at George Webb on Sunday, Jan. 30.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/126 "2022-04-13T02:58:38Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Looks like there were not quite enough good guys with guns.

Nor in the Brooklyn subway station that got shot up today. MTG or Boebert (I didn’t pay attention to which) tweeted that, if NY allowed free open carry and everybody did, they all could have shot back.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/127 "2022-04-13T04:20:18Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> MTG or Boebert (I didn’t pay attention to which) tweeted that, if NY allowed free open carry and everybody did, they all could have shot back.

Oh wouldn’t that have been one splendid scene, in a smoke-filled train car. I mean, come on, I think even NYPD gave up on “just send 45 shots in his general direction, one’s gotta hit” years ago.

No need to pay attention who, the idiocy is the same.

Moreover, I suspect there may _ **have** _ been other armed people in that train. But the attacker having the initiative and element of surprise, and being surrounded by bystanders, they were not in a position to mount a counterattack.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/128 "2022-04-14T07:21:29Z")

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Never mind. **JRDelirious** beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/129 "2022-04-14T12:05:35Z")

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> **[Girl waiting for photo with Easter bunny shot as California shop owner fires...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/girl-shot-california-shop-owner-fires-thieves-police-say-rcna24351)**
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> The store owner fled the state and was arrested in Nevada, authorities said Wednesday.

It takes a good guy with a gun to stop a 9-year old wanting to see the Easter Bunny.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/130 "2022-04-14T13:47:03Z")

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He missed the shoplifters but hit the innocent 9 year old kid 3 times?

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/131 "2022-04-14T13:51:06Z")

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> After the shooting, Cockrell fled the scene. At about 9:00 p.m., Nevada Highway Patrol located Cockrell in his vehicle and took him into custody. Cockrell was booked in at the Clark County Jail on an extraditable warrant, for attempted murder, in the amount of $1,000,000.

Good.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/132 "2022-04-14T14:09:56Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> He missed the shoplifters but hit the innocent 9 year old kid 3 times?

The rabbit kept ducking…

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/133 "2022-04-14T14:38:17Z")

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In shooting (well, in any sort of instrument measurement), you have accuracy and you have precision. That good guy with a gun had excellent precision. Absolutely shitty on the accuracy scale though.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/134 "2022-04-14T16:59:37Z")

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This is so fucked up. Leaving aside the tragedy of the death of such a young girl, the poor marksmanship of the shop keeper and the reckless disregard for safety that comes from shooting in a crowded mall, even if he had been an ace shot miles away from anyone else and had hit his target dead center, what could the shop lifters have possibly stolen that would be worth having their death on his conscience?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/135 "2022-04-14T17:03:18Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> what could the shop lifters have possibly stolen that would be worth having their death on his conscience?

Apparently shoes.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/136 "2022-04-14T17:12:27Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> his conscience

You’ve made quite the assumption there.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/137 "2022-04-14T18:01:41Z")

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9 year old girl waiting to see the Easter Bunny shot three times by store manager shooting at fleeing shoplifters.

> **[Shop Owner Accidentally Shoots Little Girl Waiting for Easter Bunny Photo,...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/shop-owner-accidentally-shoots-little-girl-waiting-for-easter-bunny-photo-police-say?source=facebook)**
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> The shopkeeper was aiming at a pair of shoplifters but hit the little girl instead, according to authorities.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/138 "2022-04-14T18:04:00Z")

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Either there’s a rash of children being targeted by footwear salesman, or I beat you to the story by 6 hours.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/139 "2022-04-14T18:06:02Z")

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Oops. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/140 "2022-04-14T18:07:45Z")

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No, it’s all good.

I’d rather that than another 9- year old shot by a trigger happy store owner.

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