# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1421 "2023-09-30T19:17:09Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I’d also put this one in the positive gun news thread. Two good guys with guns battled it out and won Nah, the shop owner was defending himself. The 78-yr-old shooter had never even mentioned he was unhappy with his service 2 years earlier, he just showed up one day and started shooting. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1422 "2023-09-30T19:17:17Z")
I’m afraid the second guy may only have carried the gun for protection. This feud had been going on for some time and he had good reason to fear the customer, from what I understand. I feel bad for him if that is in fact what happened. The customer was an asshole in need of anger management. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1423 "2023-09-30T19:18:41Z")
Sort of ninja’d but with slightly different information. I’d read the car repair that the customer was angry about was from two years prior and they’d been arguing about it. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1424 "2023-09-30T19:18:51Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > This feud had been going on for some time and he had good reason to fear the customer, from what I understand. “But according to police, he wasn’t satisfied with the work that was done, which he felt ‘was inadequate, and he believed he was overcharged.’ Weirdly, he never returned to Stout’s to complain about the work.” ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1425 "2023-09-30T19:19:43Z")
Either way, self-defense. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1426 "2023-09-30T19:19:59Z")
Agree. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1427 "2023-10-01T14:54:05Z")
This happened Thursday (Sept. 28th), but I haven’t seen it here anywhere: [Sheriff’s official IDs suspected shooter in violence at planned site of Oñate statue](https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/sheriffs-official-ids-suspected-shooter-in-violence-at-planned-site-of-o-ate-statue/article_631b4766-5d63-11ee-a392-db0eabb068dc.html) Rio Arriba County in northern New Mexico is planning to reinstall a statue of Don Juan de Oñate, a significant and controversial conquistador. The statue was prudently removed from its original place in 2020, after a protest at a similar statue in Albuquerque during which a MAGAnut shot a protester. The debate about Oñate has been going on here for a long as I can remember; he was responsible for much of the Spanish colonization of New Mexico and, in the process, the brutalization and massacre of much of the m native population. It’s inevitable that when someone decides to display a statue of him, there will be conflict. In this case, a group of Native American-led protesters was at the site and a small group of counter-protesters was a short distance away. One of the counter-protesters jumped over a short wall, confronted a protester, and then pulled out a handgun and shot him. Guess what hat he was wearing? ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1428 "2023-10-01T16:29:26Z")
Couldn’t possibly, unless you help with clues…Lemme see, was it red? Dan ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1429 "2023-10-01T16:58:54Z")
Got it in one! With white lettering. The thing is, a contentious debate about Oñate has been going on as long as I can remember - at least back to the Sixties, and I’m sure the Pueblo peoples had some pretty firm opinions before the civil rights era as well. The descendants of the settlers and those of the people Oñate abused and murdered (can you tell which side of the fence I’ve landed on?) have been fighting this battle over who gets to interpret history for a long time. But one side actually shooting the other? That’s a MAGA innovation. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1430 "2023-10-01T19:07:12Z")
Lemme get this straight: 1. There’s this swarthy guy crossing the Rio Grande and he’s not even Mexican. 2. A damn furriner who can’t even speak 'murican. 3. He’s murdering and abusing, brutalizing and massacring red blooded (and skinned) ‘muricans; obviously an illegal. Plus that’s stealin’ our jobs. 4. Didn’t vote for Don Juan Jesus Trump. 5. Didn’t pay no taxes. And the MAGAnuts support him? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1431 "2023-10-01T21:36:53Z")
It does make the point that MAGAs tend to be reactionaries rather than following anything resembling an actual ideology. If ‘woke’ people are against it, they’re blindly for it. Another supplement on the … legacy of Onate, is from my public school days in Las Cruces, NM. > **[Oñate no more: Las Cruces school board votes to rename it Organ Mountain High...](https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/education/lcps/2020/08/04/onate-high-school-las-cruces-vote-name-remain-board-new-mexico/3293827001/)** > > The proposal to change the name came amid a national conversation about monuments and names of institutions honoring controversial historical figures. This opened the year I left for College, and to the predominantly Hispanic / Latino population of town, was considered a popular, and representative choice. Especially since the other two were Las Cruces High School (boring, but inoffensive to everyone) and Mayfield Highschool (boo on them from loyalty) weren’t exactly evocative of the local population. There’s always some friction at the junctions of a multicultural society, but I’ll grant this was a poor choice made in an effort to be inclusive. But back to the thread topic, from the article above about the 2020 change: > Also, on Tuesday, [about two dozen protesters](https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/education/2020/08/04/supporters-protest-name-change-onate-high-school-las-cruces-lcps/3291068001/) gathered in front of the district’s administration building to advocate for maintaining the name. Note - no violence. Gee. I wonder what was different. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1432 "2023-10-02T05:13:47Z")
Step aside, two girls and a beverage vessel, > **[2 men shot each other with same gun during argument in west Birmingham,...](https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2022/09/2-men-shot-each-other-with-same-gun-during-argument-in-west-birmingham-police-say.html)** > > Birmingham police responded just before 10:30 p.m. to the 900 block of Susan Lane in the city’s Green Acres community. They arrived to find two men – both in their mid-40s – wounded in the yard of a residence. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1433 "2023-10-02T08:15:48Z")
Sharing is caring. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1434 "2023-10-02T12:04:40Z")
I guess an armed society IS a polite society. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1435 "2023-10-02T20:20:26Z")
> The wounded man then gained control of the suspect’s gun and shot him. Aren’t they _both_ suspects? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1436 "2023-10-02T20:58:45Z")
Not once he became a good guy with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1437 "2023-10-02T22:07:24Z")
Does that town have a shop called “Needful Things”? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1438 "2023-10-03T21:23:36Z")
“If anyone should object to this Union…” > **[Man accidentally shot child while officiating wedding near Lincoln, deputy says](https://www.klkntv.com/man-accidentally-shot-child-while-officiating-wedding-near-lincoln-deputy-says/)** > > Chief Deputy Ben Houchin said 62-year-old Michael Gardner, the wedding's officiant, fired a gun to get everyone's attention. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1439 "2023-10-04T14:52:58Z")
Well, this is a story I never thought I would read. Can’t believe this wasn’t in Florida. > [@](#): > > A Texas man accidentally shot a child while officiating a wedding in Lancaster County on Saturday, the sheriff’s office says. > > Chief Deputy Ben Houchin said deputies were sent to a wedding at Hillside Events near Denton on a report of a gunshot wound. > > Deputies learned that 62-year-old Michael Gardner, the wedding’s officiant, fired a gun to get everyone’s attention. > > “He was going to fire in the air, and as he did that, it slipped and went off,” Houchin said. > > The gun was loaded with a blank that Gardner made with gunpowder and glue. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1440 "2023-10-04T15:09:57Z")
I’ve officiated a few weddings for friends. Never thought to fire a gun into the air to get everyone’s attention. I always just say, good afternoon everyone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=73)