# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1481 "2023-10-21T12:29:11Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Sorry to be dense, but what _did_ they mean? - I would guess driving around the back roads at night. Likely be a witness to crimes or a victim. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1482 "2023-10-21T15:22:02Z")
Or bootlegging. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1483 "2023-10-21T18:27:57Z")
All I know is you shouldn’t trust your soul to no backwoods Southern lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1484 "2023-10-21T21:42:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I would guess driving around the back roads at night. This was in broad daylight. But yes to the reasons given. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1485 "2023-10-22T13:56:18Z")
One of the conspirators already flipped. Various charges carry 5 to 20 year prison sentences. > **[North Carolina and North Dakota Police Chiefs and Federal Firearms Licensees...](https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/north-carolina-and-north-dakota-police-chiefs-and-federal-firearms-licensees-indicted)** > > A federal grand jury has returned an indictment charging five defendants with a conspiracy to illegally acquire machineguns and other regulated firearms.  Charged in the indictment, which was unsealed yesterday are: Sean Reidpath Sullivan, age... "According to the 26-count indictment, Hall and Sawyer were Chiefs of Police in Coats, North Carolina and Ray, North Dakota, respectively. Sullivan was the owner and operator of Trident, LLC, located in Gambrills, Maryland, and was also an Intelligence Analyst with the Department of Homeland Security Investigations. Sullivan and Trident were Federal Firearms Licensees (“FFLs”) and Special Occupational Taxpayers (“SOTs”), which allowed them, in certain circumstances, to possess, import, manufacture, and deal in fully automatic firearms (machineguns) and other regulated firearms. Tafoya and Vickers owned and operated firearms related businesses in New Mexico and North Carolina and were also FFLs and SOTs. The indictment alleges that, beginning in at least June 2018 through at least March 2021, the defendants conspired to acquire machineguns and/or other restricted firearms, such as short-barreled rifles, by falsely representing that the firearms would be used for demonstration to law enforcement agencies, including the Coats Police Department and the Ray Police Department. The indictment further alleges that Hall, Sawyer, and other conspirators signed law letters with no expectation that the weapons would ever be demonstrated to their respective law enforcement agencies." ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1486 "2023-10-25T02:42:29Z")
Truly stupid. > **[Man makes deadly mistake trying to rob gun store with hammer](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/thief-makes-deadly-mistake-trying-to-rob-gun-store-with-hammer?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=msn_feed)** > > A would-be burglar in California died after he tried to rob a gun store with a hammer, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1487 "2023-10-25T02:44:54Z")
Should this go in the “stupid hammer news” thread? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1488 "2023-10-25T02:50:42Z")
Well, robbing a _gun_ store with a hammer certainly pings my parameters for “stupid”. The variations of, “bringing a \_\_\_\_ to a gunfight” just keep piling on. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1489 "2023-10-25T10:01:40Z")
I think that was a suicide. A gun store in the early afternoon on a Sunday? That’s got to be one of their busiest times in a typical week. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1490 "2023-10-25T10:07:26Z")
Reminds me of one of the stories in the other thread a while ago of a guy who tried to attack someone holding a gun with a brick, got shot, and then _got back up and tried to do it again_. And got shot again. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1491 "2023-10-25T18:36:05Z")
I don’t think that the life insurance company is going to pay that claim. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1492 "2023-10-26T01:07:11Z")
There is apparently an active shooter situation in Lewiston, Maine. Some guy with a rifle at a bowling alley, then a restaurant and a Walmart distribution center. My last job in Maine was in Lewiston. It is the second largest city in Maine, but that’s not saying much. To me it was like a main street area with every fast food restaurant you could think of, about three dozen churches and a sprawl of suburbia. Ironically, I was joking with my mom the other day that all the action happens on the west coast, “why there have been two shootings within five blocks of me this week alone.” This is the first one of these that I hit this close to home, so I guess I’m in the club now, sort of. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1493 "2023-10-26T02:05:03Z")
At least 16 dead. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1494 "2023-10-26T02:13:17Z")
I’m seeing reports of 22 dead. Edit … I’ve also seen a name floated all over Twitter, but who knows if that’s accurate at all. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1495 "2023-10-26T02:35:21Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > My last job in Maine was in Lewiston. My wife went to Bates, but it doesn’t look like there’s any connection to the college so far. She’s a little shook up about the news. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1496 "2023-10-26T03:05:20Z")
From [ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/lewiston-maine-mass-shooting/?id=104322983): > The suspect has a history of military service and is a firearms instructor ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1497 "2023-10-26T21:15:30Z")
The part about being a firearms instructor seems to be inaccurate. What _does_ appear to be the case is that his military service was somewhat problematic. He threatened а shoot-em-up at the base and was taken to a facility for mental evaluation.        Which presents a problem for the gundamentalists. Taking guns away from crazy people: who gets to decide what is a qualifying mental defect? _Why, afer ya knows it, they’ll be a-callin’ me crazy just onacuzza I has fifty guns in my basement_. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1498 "2023-10-26T21:23:32Z")
It’s always a bunch of hand wringing about mental health after these murders, but do you think the hand wringers want to do anything about healthcare let alone **mental** healthcare? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1499 "2023-10-26T21:43:35Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > _Why, afer ya knows it, they’ll be a-callin’ me crazy just onacuzza I has fifty guns in my basement_. … but still a dirt floor that floods… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1500 "2023-10-26T23:14:08Z")
Maine apparently has a “yellow flag” law that allows firearms to be taken away from unstable individuals. > [@CNN](#): > > Robert R. Card II … made his troubling statements while he was at the Camp Smith training facility in New York … His command referred him to a military hospital, and he spent a few weeks under evaluation … In July, Army Reserve officials reported Card for “behaving erratically,” and he was transported to the nearby Keller Army Community Hospital at the United States Military Academy for “medical evaluation” It would appear that NYSP do not talk to those hick down-easters in Maine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=76)