# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1861 "2025-04-01T14:08:35Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > _Die Hard_ lied to us. _In The Line Of Fire_ lied to us. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1862 "2025-04-01T18:30:54Z")
Eh, In the Line of Fire is probably _pretty_ close (and yes, I have watched and own the movie!) to accurate, certainly more so than most. It’s a two shot gun, one round in each barrel, and a pretty low powered (enough to do the job at short range through!) round. And it took an obsessive mind and careful, near professional crafting to make happen. I’m still not sold on the system to hit the primer, but it wouldn’t have been hard to make that into something like a tie clip and pass it along as innocuous, like of like the rabbit foot trick (which also seemed a bit of a stretch). Anyway, just wanted to help with the factual questions, and mention again that the term from the cited article still leaves a wide range of options on the table: un-serialized “ghost gun.” ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1863 "2025-04-13T00:14:14Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > being mostly plastic, somewhat harder for security systems to detect. A common misconception, and incorrect. A ghost gun is a firearm assembled with untracked, unregistered parts. The receiver (main body) of a firearm is required to have a serial number and have a background check to be sold. Receivers can be 3D printed or can be purchased as an 80% complete block meaning that it cannot be assembled into a weapon without machining the remaining 20%. Being a ghost gun simply means there’s no serial # to trace back to it’s origin by traditional means. [80% receivers - ATF](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/are-%E2%80%9C80%E2%80%9D-or-%E2%80%9Cunfinished%E2%80%9D-receivers-illegal) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1864 "2025-04-13T00:38:33Z")
You can make a functioning gun with nothing more than a piece of pipe, a rubber band, and a nail. It won’t be a very good gun, and it’ll probably blow up in your hands after a very small number of firings (possibly one), but it’ll probably work at least once. With machining tools (which are available to hobbyists), you can do a much better job, including something like a replica AK-47 just as good as the ones made by Kalishnakov. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1865 "2025-04-13T23:25:26Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > functioning gun with nothing more than a piece of pipe, a rubber band, and a nail Growing up in NYC in the 50’s, Zip Guns were made with car radio antenna section barrels, a filed down bolt latch for a firing pin, and a rubber band as you mentioned. All held together with black electrical tape. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1866 "2025-04-16T03:46:48Z")
[Who says parents don’t care about their chidren’s schoolwork?](https://www.aol.com/mom-arrested-bringing-gun-school-171053212.html) > [@](#): > > An[angry Indiana mother](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/decatur-township-schools-mom-valley-mills-threat-carrie-rivers-teacher-gun-firearm-posession-harassment-messages-lgbt-lesbian-gay-same-sex/531-9cd49791-dbdb-4e25-968c-f4ddb62d439f) faces multiple charges after she was accused of taking a gun to her sixth grade daughter’s elementary school and threatening her lesbian teacher to “kiss ur kids goodbye” after she gave an assignment about flags, officials said Tuesday. > > Carrie Rivers, 48, was arrested and charged with possession of a firearm on school property and harassment in connection with the incident at Valley Mills Elementary School in Indianapolis. > > Rivers threatened her daughter’s teacher over “a work assignment that had to do with same-sexuality relationships,” an affidavit supporting the woman’s arrest said. > > Decatur Township school police officers answered a call last Wednesday about an “irate parent” on campus. When they arrived, officers noticed Rivers had something on her waistband that looked like a firearm, the affidavit says. > > “Carrie Rivers stated that she did have a gun as I was removing it from her person,” responding officer Tabetha Emenaker wrote in the affidavit. “I advised Carrie Rivers on the law in regard to having a firearm on school premises and that it was an arrestable offense. She understood and stated that she didn’t even realize that she had it on because she is so used to wearing it and has been on school property with it before.” > > Rivers then said she was taking her daughter out of Valley Mills Elementary and opting for home-schooling, police said. She also called her daughter’s teacher a slur disparaging to lesbians, the affidavit says. > > Police let Rivers go, but then she sent a threatening message to her daughter’s teacher 25 minutes later, the affidavit says. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1867 "2025-04-16T13:39:48Z")
> [@](#): > > She understood and stated that she didn’t even realize that she had it on because she is so used to wearing it and has been on school property with it before.” That’s what always baffles me. What frightens you so much that you feel you have to wear a sidearm 24-7? You have packs of wolves prowling the streets? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1868 "2025-04-16T14:00:44Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > What frightens you so much that you feel you have to wear a sidearm 24-7? Indiana borders Ohio. You know, that place where hordes of immigrants are stealing and eating pets. _Somebody_ has to protect the poor innocent creatures. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1869 "2025-04-16T14:02:25Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > What frightens you so much that you feel you have to wear a sidearm 24-7? You never know when some shit is going to go down ™. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1870 "2025-04-16T14:02:53Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > You have packs of wolves prowling the streets? [![](https://i.imgflip.com/9qzxul.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/9qzxul.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1871 "2025-04-16T14:23:34Z")
I’m a little more alarmed that such a responsible gun owner would forget they were even carrying it while around school children. Surely Law-abiding Responsible Owners would never _forget_ where their weapon is? I’m also choosing to assume that the homework assignment about flags wasn’t anything pride related, and this moron just freaked out about the stripes on the Greek flag or something (or Wales, clearly related to bestiality!) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1872 "2025-04-16T14:41:32Z")
A previous post quotes the story as saying she was upset about some same-sex-relationship class assignments (I wanted to say “homework”, but that just sounded wrong). ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1873 "2025-04-16T16:55:26Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > I’m a little more alarmed that such a responsible gun owner would forget they were even carrying it while around school children. When my son was in Boy Scouts, he would carry a knife with him for campouts, meetings, etc., and would forget to take them out of his pocket before school. I can _almost_ forgive her for forgetting it’s on her. Almost. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1874 "2025-04-16T18:25:00Z")
It sounds like that parent is going to be incarcerated and in that case, how does she expect to homeschool her child? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1875 "2025-04-16T19:39:16Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > When my son was in Boy Scouts, he would carry a knife with him for campouts, meetings, etc., and would forget to take them out of his pocket before school. I can _almost_ forgive her for forgetting it’s on her. Almost. [I know you made it clear about not actually forgiving them, because of habits, so I’m not criticizing YOU to be clear] I can’t. I’m a gun owner with a CCW though I haven’t carried in over a decade, and that training is clear to always be aware, and to be doubly so in areas where carrying is prohibited. I suspect (as in a lot of areas with people doing open carry) that they’re doing so as a political statement, and thus “I forgot” is the all-purpose excuse that they figure LEO (who is supposed to be on _their_ side) will let pass because of … well, that’s already been linked upthread. People like this is why there’s (legitimate) doubt about the existence of “responsible” gun owners. We do exist, I promise, but the nutjobs shout us out, get the news, and make a mockery of their _responsibilities_ while always shouting about their “rights”. It’s supposed to be both dammit. Sorry, rant off. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1876 "2025-04-16T21:16:05Z")
Seconding this rant in all particulars. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1877 "2025-04-16T21:52:44Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > I can _almost_ forgive her for forgetting it’s on her Not even close. A camping knife can be used as a weapon but has many legitimate non-lethal purposes. The only reason to carry a gun is that you expect you will have to kill someone. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1878 "2025-04-16T22:11:31Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > The only reason to carry a gun is that you expect you will have to kill someone. No, you could need to kill a pack of wolves. Or intimidate a liberal. Or maybe a paper target will suddenly appear. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1879 "2025-04-16T22:18:21Z")
Don’t forget the roving herds of feral hogs! ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1880 "2025-04-16T22:20:18Z")
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