# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1961 "2025-10-21T21:58:17Z")

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ICE officer shoots US Marshall while breaking suspect’s car window with his weapon.

> According to CNN, investigators believe an ICE officer approached the suspect’s car and smashed the window with their service weapon. CNN’s source reported that it is believed the agent’s weapon discharged while they attempted to grab the suspect, striking both the suspect and a deputy U.S. Marshal.

> **[US Marshal shot during immigration enforcement operation in LA, reports say](https://www.kktv.com/2025/10/21/us-marshal-shot-during-immigration-enforcement-operation-la-reports-say/)**
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> A U.S. Marshal was shot while assisting an immigration enforcement operation, according to several reports.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1962 "2025-10-25T19:17:05Z")

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The Case Of The Semi-Automatic Doritos Bag! [Baltimore County police handcuff student after AI system mistook a bag of chips for a gun | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/25/us/baltimore-student-chips-ai-gun-detection-hnk) Police handcuffed a student after their AI gun detector misidentified the lad’s empty Doritos bag as a gun.

Oops, my mistake-it appears as if the bag was fully loaded.

Nevermind. 😁

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1963 "2025-10-25T19:20:23Z")

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Wow, that’s a toughie. I can see McConnell’s court really hating the weed, but really loving the gun rights. I have no prediction.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1964 "2025-11-07T03:57:59Z")

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Probably should get filed under evil:

> **[House cleaner, mother of 4, fatally shot in Indiana after showing up at the...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cleaning-woman-fatally-shot-indiana-showing-wrong-address-rcna242352)**
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> Maria Florinda Rios Perez, a 32-year-old immigrant from Guatemala, died in her husband's arms, her brother said.

I bet gun owners around the country are jealous they couldn’t be the one to get away with killing a brown person for free.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1965 "2025-11-07T04:08:33Z")

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Here’s the stupid part:

> Velazquez told the station that the shot that struck Perez came through the home’s door. WTTV reported that a bullet hole could be seen in the door.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1966 "2025-11-07T04:10:41Z")

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> [@Zoobi](#):
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> I bet gun owners around the country are jealous they couldn’t be the one to get away with killing a brown person for free.

I 100% agree that she shouldn’t have been killed for trying to open the wrong door because she mistook the address. But the article shows an investigation is being done, so I wouldn’t agree (yet) with the clause “killing a brown person for free”.

Though I also 100% agree that if it was a 32 year old white lady attempting to open the door on accident that it wouldn’t have ended up like this, so the inherent racism/profiling should still be absolutely condemned.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1967 "2025-11-07T04:14:48Z")

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Lol you know nothing is going to happen to the shooter. “Self protection” and Castle Doctrine and all that. I am sure they will tearfully claim they were fearful for their lives in court and then hand out high fives on the way home.

This is Indiana, they’ll probably get a parade, a seat in the state Senate, and a show on Fox News.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1968 "2025-11-07T09:31:04Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Beer, whiskey, blindness, all fine, but pot-heads? Never!

Hmmm…

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> The Justice Department argues the law is valid when used against regular drug users because they pose a serious public safety risk.

And how will LEOs determine who is a “regular user” of marijuana? All together now:

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJyglKW4AA4i1B?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJyglKW4AA4i1B?format=jpg&name=small)

I’m 90% sure this is the entire reason this has gone to SCOTUS.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Police handcuffed a student after their AI gun detector misidentified the lad’s empty Doritos bag as a gun.
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> Oops, my mistake-it appears as if the bag was fully loaded.

ALWAYS ASSUME THERE’S AT LEAST ONE CHIP STILL IN THE BAG.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1969 "2025-11-07T09:56:26Z")

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It’s not a chip, it’s a madeleine.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1970 "2025-11-07T09:59:00Z")

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It’s a FL\*-15.

\*Frito-Lay

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1971 "2025-11-17T21:04:47Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I 100% agree that she shouldn’t have been killed for trying to open the wrong door because she mistook the address. But the article shows an investigation is being done, so I wouldn’t agree (yet) with the clause “killing a brown person for free”.

> [@Zoobi](#):
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> Lol you know nothing is going to happen to the shooter. “Self protection” and Castle Doctrine and all that. I am sure they will tearfully claim they were fearful for their lives in court and then hand out high fives on the way home.

And today:

> **[Indiana homeowner charged in fatal shooting of house cleaner who showed up at...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/17/us/indiana-house-cleaner-shot)**
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> An Indiana homeowner accused of killing a house cleaner was charged Monday with voluntary manslaughter in a case that raises questions about the limits of stand-your-ground laws.

Now, seriously, I still think Zoobi is more-or-less correct at the _outcomes_ - they’ll plead worry for their safety, the tears will come out, and play upon the jury, if they don’t (like the others mentioned in the article) comp to a far lesser crime than manslaughter.

I just think it’s worthwhile to note that 20+ years ago, this wouldn’t have gotten even an investigation most likely, and 10 years ago, the investigation would have been cursory at best and then dropped.

And I’m NOT discounting how many such shootings STILL go unreported or accepted as a “necessary” loss. But tiny bits of improvement, despite MAGA posturing that we’re living in a constant war zone is a sign things may improve if we manage to avoid out-and-out fascism/autocracy in the next decade.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1972 "2025-11-18T10:16:40Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Now, seriously, I still think Zoobi is more-or-less correct at the _outcomes_ - they’ll plead worry for their safety, the tears will come out, and play upon the jury, if they don’t (like the others mentioned in the article) comp to a far lesser crime than manslaughter.

Ah, the Frozen Caveman Lawyer defense: “Whatever I did was justified because I was afraid”. Who knew that cowardice was a get-out-of-jail-free card?

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1973 "2025-11-19T02:41:49Z")

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> “Mr. Andersen’s actions must be evaluated based on the circumstances as he perceived them,” Relford said in the statement.

No, his actions must be evaluated based on reality. Not on his personal perception of reality.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1974 "2025-11-19T04:01:26Z")

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Well, of _course_ his (the shooter’s) lawyer is going to say that. What I find worse is the shooter’s own words quoted in the article:

> He fired one shot toward the door. He said the door never opened and he didn’t announce himself or say anything before he pulled the trigger.
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> When told he had killed Rios, he put his head down on the table and said he didn’t mean for anything to happen to anybody.

By _his own admission_ he was unaware of what was actually going on, shot _through_ the door and had NO idea of what was out there. He could have been shooting a cop doing a wellness check, or anyone ELSE that was in the path of the bullet at that moment. And if he DIDN’T mean to hurt someone, he broke one of the cardinal rules of defensive shooting - only shoot if you’re intending to knowingly kill and have judged it a _reasonable_ thread.

He had no idea what he was doing, and that’s why I want him hit with the appropriate felony.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1975 "2025-11-19T15:44:53Z")

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> “Mr. Andersen’s actions must be evaluated based on the circumstances as he perceived them,” Relford said in the statement.

Given that never in this lawyer’s lifetime the standard has never not been _as ~~he~~ a reasonable person would perceive them_ this lawyer needs to be sanctioned.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1976 "2025-11-21T08:42:03Z")

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And the latest Darwin Award nominee is….

> **[Off-duty Chicago cop accidentally shoots himself in groin outside police...](https://chicago.suntimes.com/police-reform/2025/11/20/chicago-police-officer-shooting-gresham)**
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> The officer was "heading for duty" Wednesday night when his "weapon discharged and he accidentally shot himself in the testicles" in the station's parking lot, records show.

For “accidentally” read “stupidly because he was carrying his gun in his waistband”.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1977 "2025-11-21T11:14:04Z")

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Ah yes… another exhibit in the debate about “appendix carry”.  
(Form of concealed carry where an inside-the-waistband holster is clipped in at the 1 or 11 o’clock position. Pros: more quickly reachable even sitting down, comfortable if properly fitted. Cons: when you holster or draw, the barrel can wind up pointing at the femoral artery or at the most valuable players. So, you have to **really** pay attention to how you’re handling it.)

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1978 "2025-11-25T16:41:34Z")

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That’s one way to take yourself out of the gene pool.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1979 "2025-12-22T07:49:10Z")

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Shoplifter draws gun on mall cop. It does not go well for him, or for his testicles. Thankfully, no-one was shot - apparently the gun jammed, or was unloaded, or the kid had no idea what he was doing:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fFcg7E9pAZw/maxresdefault.jpg "Bodycam video captures shoplifting suspect pulling a gun on Ohio officer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFcg7E9pAZw)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1980 "2025-12-22T07:54:06Z")

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Rather poorly done pat-down, obviously.

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