# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 108
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2141 "2014-07-29T16:50:55Z")
Another off-target comment from you. Unless, that is, you think the Korean-Americans are being targeted for not being American at all, in fact for actually hating our freedoms etc. But I don’t think someone capable of composing an actual paragraph, such as yourself but not **Clothahump** , would believe so. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2142 "2014-07-29T16:52:13Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > True. And what percentage were Muslim? I don’t know. Statistics weren’t really kept about slaves’ religions. Considering the [demographics of West Africa](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa#Religion), probably a surprisingly high percentage. And many were probably forcibly converted. So, again, what the President said was pretty damn reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2143 "2014-07-29T16:53:21Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. According to Obama, Muslims are responsible for building the very fabric of our nation. > > First off, the idea that Muslims helped build this country is ludicrous. But come on, Obama - you’re supposed to be a Constitutional law professor and all that, and you don’t know that we do NOT live in a democracy? I found a pic of you making this post: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/R68mW.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2144 "2014-07-29T17:07:15Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I don’t know. Statistics weren’t really kept about slaves’ religions. Considering the [demographics of West Africa](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa#Religion), probably a surprisingly high percentage. And many were probably forcibly converted. > > So, again, what the President said was pretty damn reasonable. Reasonable in that everyone contributed. Koreans, Bangladeshis, Jews, Pentecostals, gays, redheads, women, and actors. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2145 "2014-07-29T17:09:04Z")
> [@Sinaptics](#): > > Seriously though, I think Clotha should sharia what he’s smoking. I don’t think he smokes, I think he mainlines GOP talking points. No doubt he got this one from one of the usual dealers, Fox News or Glenn Beck or Limbaugh. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2146 "2014-07-29T17:13:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Reasonable in that everyone contributed. Koreans, Bangladeshis, Jews, Pentecostals, gays, redheads, women, and actors. All of those groups have contributed as well. Most groups have contributed to “building the fabric of America”. Pointing out one (or more) does not diminish the contribution of anyone. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2147 "2014-07-29T17:14:14Z")
Why do you hate America Clothy? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2148 "2014-07-29T17:15:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > All of those groups have contributed as well. Most groups have contributed to “building the fabric of America”. Pointing out one (or more) does not diminish the contribution of anyone. True. I’m happy now. It’s like when a politician says that a city is awesome. They all are. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2149 "2014-07-29T17:18:17Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > True. I’m happy now. It’s like when a politician says that a city is awesome. They all are. Some cities are _not awesome_. I won’t say which ones, just in case I ever run for office. ---
**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2150 "2014-07-29T17:21:30Z")
I’m pretty sure there’s a stupid idea in here somewhere, I just haven’t quite decided which one: [http://metronews.ca/news/world/1110640/strip-club-endorses-democratic-pastor-for-congress/](http://metronews.ca/news/world/1110640/strip-club-endorses-democratic-pastor-for-congress/) > [@](#): > > An Arizona strip club has endorsed a Democratic candidate for Congress. And the candidate, the Rev. Jarrett Maupin, says he’s happy to have the support of The Great Alaskan Bush Company of Phoenix. Or maybe the stupid is this bit: > [@](#): > > But [Maupin] can’t vote for himself because he was convicted in 2009 of lying to the FBI in a case involving then-Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2151 "2014-07-29T17:27:15Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Some cities are _not awesome_. > > . Damn, I’m wrong again! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2152 "2014-07-29T17:31:23Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But again, you can say it about any group, so it’s just a platitude. It would be like saying Gen-Xers have made great contributions to this country. Sure, but others have done more and others have done less. We’re not particularly noteworthy as a generation. “Politician utters platitude during speech.” Holy smoke, stop the presses! Oh, wait, I guess no one really reads the news any more. Holy smoke, interrupt the soaps with a Breaking News bulletin! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2153 "2014-07-29T17:36:11Z")
Well yeah, that’s why I disagreed that it was a stupid liberal idea, unless he went so far with the hyperbole as to make it clear he was singling them out. That would be irritating, because I’ve searched for him saying something similar about Jews or Chinese or Hindus and have found nothing. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2154 "2014-07-29T17:40:52Z")
You’ve already been asked why he would not single out groups that aren’t today being persecuted for “hating America” and so forth. Got an answer yet? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2155 "2014-07-29T18:05:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That would be irritating, because I’ve searched for him saying something similar about Jews or Chinese or Hindus and have found nothing. [April 30, 2014](http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/04/30/presidential-proclamation-jewish-american-heritage-month-2014) > [@Barack Obama](#): > > Their pursuit of freedom brought multitudes to our shores, and today our country is the proud home to millions of Jewish Americans. This month, let us honor their tremendous contributions – as scientists and artists, as activists and entrepreneurs. And let all of us find inspiration in a story that speaks to the universal human experience, with all of its suffering and all of its salvation. [April 30, 2013](http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/04/30/presidential-proclamation-jewish-american-heritage-month-2013) > [@Barack Obama](#): > > Jewish immigrants from all over the world wove new threads into our cultural fabric with rich traditions and indomitable faith, and their descendants pioneered incredible advances in science and the arts. Teachings from the Torah lit the way toward a more perfect Union, from women’s rights to workers’ rights to the end of segregation. > > That story is still unfolding today. Jewish Americans continue to guide our country’s progress as scientists and teachers, public servants and private citizens, wise leaders and loving parents. We see their accomplishments in every neighborhood, and we see them abroad in our unbreakable bond with Israel that Jewish Americans helped forge. More than 350 years have passed since Jewish refugees first made landfall on American shores. We take this month to celebrate the progress that followed, and the bright future that lies ahead. [May 27, 2010](http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-reception-honor-jewish-american-heritage-month) > [@Barack Obama](#): > > The diversity of talents and accomplishments represented in this room underscores the vast contributions that Jewish Americans have made to this country. Of course, it’s impossible to separate the achievements of Jewish Americans from the struggles of Jewish people around the world. Even before we were a nation, we were a sanctuary for Jews seeking to live without the specter of violence or exile. That’s what drew a band of 23 Jewish refugees to a place called New Amsterdam more than 350 years ago. That’s what brought Jewish immigrants fleeing pogroms on a long journey to America in the last turn of the century. And that’s what led Holocaust survivors and Jews trapped behind the Iron Curtain to travel to these shores to rebuild their lives. > > \ > > Jewish Americans have always been a critical part of the American story. [January 31, 2014](http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/01/31/president-obama-extends-best-wishes-lunar-new-year): > [@Barack Obama](#): > > The AAPI [Asian American and Pacific Islander] community is also great and strong, as our shared heritage spans from immigrants to refugees to native people. AAPIs have worked the land for generations. AAPIs literally built this land, connecting the East Coast and the West Coast via the Transcontinental Railroad. We have more recent immigrants coming in as business owners, students, laborers, educators, and workers from all fields. Our nation has benefited from our immigration system, and that means we all have a stake in building a strong and better immigration system for future generations. [April 30, 2013](http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/04/30/presidential-proclamation-asian-american-and-pacific-islander-heritage-m) > [@Barack Obama](#): > > Each May, our Nation comes together to recount the ways Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPIs) helped forge our country. We remember a time 170 years ago, when Japanese immigrants first set foot on American shores and opened a path for millions more. We remember 1869, when Chinese workers laid the final ties of the transcontinental railroad after years of backbreaking labor. And we remember Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders who have made our country bigger and brighter again and again, from Native Hawaiians to the generations of striving immigrants who shaped our history – reaching and sweating and scraping to give their children something more. Their story is the American story, and this month, we honor them all. [April 29, 2011](http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/29/presidential-proclamation-asian-american-and-pacific-islander-heritage-m) > [@Barack Obama](#): > > Our AAPI communities have roots that span the globe, but their stories of striving and success are uniquely American. As we celebrate Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, we recognize the entrepreneurship and fortitude of individuals who have helped build our country and shape the American dream for centuries. > > \ > > From our earliest days, intrepid men and women from the Asia Pacific region have forged enduring links between America and other nations as they moved across the Pacific. In today’s globalized world, these bonds remain critical, reminding the United States of our rich shared history and integrated future with the dynamic Asia Pacific region. During Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, let us celebrate the millions of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders whose talents and contributions strengthen our economy, protect our security, and enliven our country every day. Happy to help. Edit: Finding those took me about five minutes on the White House website. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2156 "2014-07-29T18:17:25Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Edit: > > Finding those took me about five minutes on the White House website. Last place **adaher** would have thought to look. Probably cause Fox told him not to. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2157 "2014-07-29T18:21:57Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > …Finding those took me about five minutes on the White House website. You simply must upgrade your kerosene powered modem. I mean, _dude_! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2158 "2014-07-29T18:42:00Z")
Is **adaher** _still_ trying to turn this into a “Help Meee! There’s an Obama under my bed!!” thread? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2159 "2014-07-29T18:55:05Z")
> [@TheSeaOtter](#): > > I’m pretty sure there’s a stupid idea in here somewhere, I just haven’t quite decided which one: > > [http://metronews.ca/news/world/1110640/strip-club-endorses-democratic-pastor-for-congress/](http://metronews.ca/news/world/1110640/strip-club-endorses-democratic-pastor-for-congress/) > > > [@](#): > > > > But [Maupin] can’t vote for himself because he was convicted in 2009 of lying to the FBI in a case involving then-Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon. > > Or maybe the stupid is this bit: Yeah - I think that’s the stupid bit. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2160 "2014-07-29T19:09:16Z")
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