# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 113
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2241 "2014-07-30T16:00:16Z")
> [@Double\_Foolscap](#): > > Don’t forget preventing the hypothetical outbreaks of Kuru Disease, Hog Cholera and Disco Fever. And he’s doing as much as anyone can to stop the epidemic of Stoopid. It isn’t working all that well, though. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2242 "2014-07-30T21:29:44Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > And he’s doing as much as anyone can to stop the epidemic of Stoopid. It isn’t working all that well, though. It’s taking longer than we thought. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2243 "2014-07-30T21:48:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > And he’s doing as much as anyone can to stop the epidemic of Stoopid. It isn’t working all that well, though. We can only expect so much. The man maybe the simultaneous embodiment of the Antichrist and a Messiah, but he is still only human. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2244 "2014-07-30T22:16:19Z")
Also, **Adaher** & **Clothahump** are still only deluded imbeciles. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2245 "2014-07-30T23:07:55Z")
…whose idea of providing a supporting citation is to quote \*Eric Cantor \*on the subject. :rolleyes: What’s the matter, Limbaugh’s website down? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2246 "2014-07-30T23:14:05Z")
And now the House passes the VA reform bill, which the Senate will vote on: > **[House approves bill to overhaul VA | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/30/politics/va-house/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)** > > The House on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a $16 billion bill to overhaul the Department of Veterans Affairs. Wow, all this productivity. Maybe the GOP isn’t so obstructionist after all. Democrats need to quit confusing their pet ideas with the good of the country. There’s actually still a lot both sides do agree on. Today’s stupid liberal idea, starting at midnight, so technically tomorrow’s stupid liberal idea of the day, is that bipartisan agreement isn’t good enough! The Democrats must also get what they want! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2247 "2014-07-31T00:23:02Z")
Oh, and put this in the un-Presidential Obama attack file: [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/07/30/obama\_to\_republicans\_stop\_hating\_all\_the\_time.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/07/30/obama_to_republicans_stop_hating_all_the_time.html) “Stop hating all the time!” His intelligence is VERY overrated. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2248 "2014-07-31T00:37:26Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Oh, and put this in the un-Presidential Obama attack file: > > [Obama to Republicans: "Stop Hating All The Time" | Video | RealClearPolitics](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/07/30/obama_to_republicans_stop_hating_all_the_time.html) > > “Stop hating all the time!” > > His intelligence is VERY overrated. It’s true they spend some of their time despising. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2249 "2014-07-31T00:40:55Z")
There are many things a President should delegate to people under him. Partisan attacks are one of them. It’s always been un-Presidential to angrily call out the opposition by name and so frequently. Perhaps if he delegates this important task to others, he can start focusing on what his job actually is, like fixing his broken bureaucracy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2250 "2014-07-31T00:44:32Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There are many things a President should delegate to people under him. Partisan attacks are one of them. It’s always been un-Presidential to angrily call out the opposition by name and so frequently. > > Perhaps if he delegates this important task to others, he can start focusing on what his job actually is, like fixing his broken bureaucracy. Do you have a single original thought or do you just scour right-wing sites for sound bytes to parrot? Besides, I thought one of your complaints is he doesn’t do enough hands-on in every single aspect of the government and now you want him to delegate? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2251 "2014-07-31T00:50:20Z")
Partisan attacks aren’t government. It’s politics. There’s never been anything wrong with his political team that he can’t leave this kind of thing to them. Now the IRS, VA, NSA, and HHS, that’s another story. How is he coming along as far as fixing these broken agencies? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2252 "2014-07-31T01:00:37Z")
I’m impressed by adahar’s ability to doublethink, since I didn’t even know he could singlethink. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2253 "2014-07-31T01:16:39Z")
It’s only doublethink if you’re a shallow thinker. Delegation is part of successful management and I’ve never suggested that the President himself should do every task the federal government does. I’ve only said he was responsible for the performance of the federal government, a concept that is nearly universally accepted in law and politics. It’s only on the ignorance fighting board that a lot of otherwise smart people spread a different view. Basic management 101 is that you delegate, and if delegation fails, you’ve gotta fix it. When a President has broken agencies and no one in the agency can right the ship, the President has to find people who can and make sure they do the job. Delegation does not mean “delegate and go play golf or make a partisan speech.” Delegation goes with follow up. if you don’t follow up and make sure the jobs you delegated are getting done, then chances are they won’t get done. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2254 "2014-07-31T01:58:58Z")
It’s impossible to have agencies that aren’t “broken”, in the sense that mishaps never happen. Do you hold all presidents to impossible standards or just this one? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2255 "2014-07-31T03:27:51Z")
This past couple of years have gone beyond mishaps. There’s no accountability, no transparency, and the President is more interested in covering his ass than finding out about problems and fixing them. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2256 "2014-07-31T03:45:58Z")
Yeah, that doesn’t answer my question. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2257 "2014-07-31T04:00:32Z")
If you honestly think this many breakdowns is normal, and that the President has handled it the same way other Presidents do, I can’t help you. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2258 "2014-07-31T04:31:50Z")
I can remember lots of “breakdowns” during earlier administrations. Can you? ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2259 "2014-07-31T04:51:22Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There are many things a President should delegate to people under him. Partisan attacks are one of them. It’s always been un-Presidential to angrily call out the opposition by name and so frequently. > > Perhaps if he delegates this important task to others, he can start focusing on what his job actually is, like fixing his broken bureaucracy. I’m just pleased that it’s the president of Australia that used to do all those partisan attacks against the democrats… [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/t2_C7mhnE34/hqdefault.jpg "George W. Bush brags about getting Saddam then attacks Democrats") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2_C7mhnE34) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/30/AR2006103000530.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/30/AR2006103000530.html) > **[Bush Attacks Democrats on Budget (Published 2007)](https://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/20/washington/20bush.html?_r=0)** > > President Bush has criticized the Democrats for proposing budgets that would allow his tax cuts to expire and for increases in spending. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2260 "2014-07-31T11:58:40Z")
Actually, it was Obama’s fault that the ACA website wasn’t ready on time: [http://finance.yahoo.com/news/probe-exposes-flaws-behind-healthcare-171324102.html](http://finance.yahoo.com/news/probe-exposes-flaws-behind-healthcare-171324102.html) WASHINGTON (AP) – Management failures by the Obama administration set the stage for computer woes that paralyzed the president’s new health care program last fall, nonpartisan investigators said in a report released Wednesday. While the administration was publicly assuring consumers that they would soon have seamless online access to health insurance, a chaotic procurement process was about to deliver a stumbling start. After a months-long investigation, the Government Accountability Office found that the administration lacked “effective planning or oversight practices” for the development of [HealthCare.gov](http://HealthCare.gov), the portal for millions of uninsured Americans These kinds of stories only seem to come as a surprise to liberal Dopers. Haven’t figured out why that is yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=112) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=114)