# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 116
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2301 "2014-08-02T03:19:49Z")
Was multi-millionaire Neel Kashkari, Republican candidate for Governor of California, pretending to be homeless for a week a stupid Republican idea? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2302 "2014-08-02T03:21:37Z")
Only if being homeless sucks less than people imagine. If minimum wage folks had to live on Ramen and open face peanut butter sandwiches that would be a useful thing to let people know to build support for the minimum wage increase. THe menu she’s got makes it seem like minimum wage earners are doing just fine. that’s why it’s stupid. And if she thinks that menu is hardship she’s pretty out of touch. Which I would kinda expect for someone whose never worked for an actual business. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2303 "2014-08-04T21:47:48Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Or perhaps the President’s. An ebola case nearly made it to our shores today. I hope he’s engaged on this issue. If I understand the situation correctly, two Americans in Liberia contracted Ebola. At least one received an experimental serum and is recovering in Atlanta. I think the other is still in Africa, but I’m not 100% on that. So, a case of Ebola has now reached our shores, and it appears we’ve successfully dealt with the issue. I can only assume, if Obama deserved the blame if this had gone wrong, you’ll award him full and personal credit for dealing with this issue? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2304 "2014-08-04T22:44:45Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > If I understand the situation correctly, two Americans in Liberia contracted Ebola. At least one received an experimental serum and is recovering in Atlanta. I think the other is still in Africa, but I’m not 100% on that. > > So, a case of Ebola has now reached our shores, and it appears we’ve successfully dealt with the issue. \*\* I can only assume, if Obama deserved the blame if this had gone wrong, you’ll award him full and personal credit for dealing with this issue?\*\* Good Lord, he’s lost his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2305 "2014-08-05T03:35:48Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Good Lord, he’s lost his mind. I’m excited for the inevitable cognitive dissonance adaher’s answer will yield! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2306 "2014-08-05T05:43:36Z")
There is nothing to celebrate when another victim of Cognitive Dissonance is struck down! We must never forget, even for a moment of jocularity, that CD is the number one threat to the Republic, and must griddle our loins for the impending…_hey, quit shoving!_…conflict that even now… _totally uncool, knock it off!_…looms on the horizon… ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2307 "2014-08-05T06:25:11Z")
**Griddle** your loins? You can griddle yours if you really wanna, but stay away from mine please - unless you’re talking about loin chops…then mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2308 "2014-08-05T08:10:50Z")
The ancient Israelites were slow to develop metal-working skills, as sheep are a very poor source of iron ore. In their on-going struggles with Phyllis Stein, they were often forced to borrow kitchen implements from the Hebrews and fashion crude armor… ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2309 "2014-08-05T12:27:55Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > If I understand the situation correctly, two Americans in Liberia contracted Ebola. At least one received an experimental serum and is recovering in Atlanta. I think the other is still in Africa, but I’m not 100% on that. > > So, a case of Ebola has now reached our shores, and it appears we’ve successfully dealt with the issue. I can only assume, if Obama deserved the blame if this had gone wrong, you’ll award him full and personal credit for dealing with this issue? There’s nothing wrong with what has been done with the ebola patients. I was referring to a person infected entering the US and infecting others, not people being evacuated for medical care. The issue has only been successfully dealt with if you assume that there’s no one exposed to ebola planning to fly to the US. When that happens, then we can analyze the CDC’s actions. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2310 "2014-08-05T15:59:17Z")
Thankfully its not an actual Ebola case, but [this](http://time.com/3080189/ebola-mt-sinai-new-york/) seem to indicate that they would handle it OK > [@](#): > > Dr. David Reich, president and chief operating officer at Mount Sinai, told TIME that because of the recent Ebola news last week, over this past weekend, the hospital had reviewed and prepared for what it would do if it received a patient with Ebola, including immediate isolation and strict infection-control procedures. “We are very pleased our staff reacted immediately based on their initial screening,” says Reich. > > The hospital reported that the patient was being kept in isolation to prevent the spread of the deadly virus, and being tested to confirm whether his symptoms are from Ebola. > > “All necessary steps are being taken to ensure the safety of all patients, visitors and staff,” Mount Sinai said in a statement. > > When it comes to infectious diseases, Reich says the hospital is well equipped, and experienced. “In terms of contagious disease, the measles is in many ways much more contagious than this,” he says. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2311 "2014-08-05T16:11:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There’s nothing wrong with what has been done with the ebola patients. I was referring to a person infected entering the US and infecting others, not people being evacuated for medical care. > > The issue has only been successfully dealt with if you assume that there’s no one exposed to ebola planning to fly to the US. When that happens, then we can analyze the CDC’s actions. So you’re saying that the President should get all the blame for anything bad, and no credit for anything good. Gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2312 "2014-08-05T17:16:16Z")
Has something happened that is good on the issue I brought up? If an infected person does get into the US, then if the CDC handles the situation well, Obama deserves credit for that. If they drop the ball, that’s on him too. The executive power of the United States resides in one person. If it didn’t, we’d vote for the head of the CDC, and the IRS, and the VA, and the NSA. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2313 "2014-08-05T17:19:46Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Has something happened that is good on the issue I brought up? Yes. President Obama has prevented any ebola-infected immigrants from entering the country illegally. Yay freedom! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2314 "2014-08-05T17:23:30Z")
For now, yes. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2315 "2014-08-05T17:31:46Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > For now, yes. So you’re waiting until he’s unable to personally inspect every airline and cruise ship passenger than blame him. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2316 "2014-08-05T17:55:33Z")
As the sole executive power, he can make decisions about how TSA should handle passengers suspected of being ill. They put CDC stations in major airports for exactly that purpose. If no orders are forthcoming from him and TSA or CDC get confused about their authority, then yes, that’s on him. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2317 "2014-08-05T18:35:47Z")
President Obama has valiantly and personally stemmed the tide of ebola on our shores and spearheaded its eradication. If the situation changes, by all means blame him, but as for now, the only reason you’re alive is due to the brilliant Obama and his policies. You should be more grateful ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2318 "2014-08-05T18:58:14Z")
I’m grateful that there are a lot of dead terrorists thanks to Obama. That’s helped keep me alive. I’m also grateful that liberals shut up when Obama does it. That’s helped keep me sane. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2319 "2014-08-05T19:05:16Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > …That’s helped keep me sane. You are not affected by insanity, you are a carrier. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2320 "2014-08-05T20:35:37Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > For now, yes. Obama has personally prevented Ebola from reaching our shores for 5 years, 198 days, 4 hours, and around 30 minutes. I’d say he’s got a sterling record on this issue. A better question would be, why are you so single-mindedly obsessed with preemptively questioning his ability on anything? He’s not the colossal failure you’ve created in your head, and doubling down on things (like your ominous “for now”) is truly puzzling. While you’ll probably duck away from this, your earlier statements implied he had _already failed_ in personally protecting us from Ebola. Your use of ‘just raising concerns’ doesn’t fool anyone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=115) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=117)