# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2461 "2014-09-10T20:08:14Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I wasn’t suggesting that we spend $800 million, only pointing out that $40 million might be just as effective as $80 million. None of us know what the “right” funding level is, and it’s the job of Congress to look out for taxpayers and cut the fat out of these types of requests. Congress can actually be relied on to do that when we’re not talking about jobs in their districts or handouts to campaign donors. It’s actually nice to see Congress work when it’s an issue that they have no particular political interest in. This is the serious stuff, and they are taking it seriously.

Man, are you the precious little hypocrite. Six weeks ago, you posted this:

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All I want with the CDC is that he be a little more proactive this time. He is, or should be, aware that the CDC has recently been having some problems. If I’m in charge of CDC, I want to know that they have their shit together and that they are ready to handle a possible ebola outbreak. He could ask Burwell, head of HHS: “What preparations are we making for this? Do they have the resources they need? How well have the quarantine stations been utilized before now?” Burwell, utilizing the functional chain of command that should exist in the federal bureaucracy, would find out pretty quickly what he needed to know and bring it to the President. If the CDC doesn’t have the resources, the President asks Congress for emergency resources(as he’s done on the border crisis).

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Now, when the President has apparently consulted with the CDC and qualified experts and come up with a budget to work on a crisis that has already killed 2000 people in Africa and, by your own admission, could easily spread to the U.S., you feel that it’s appropriate for Congress to halve the requested amount. Even though $40 million dollars is, from the standpoint of the US’s budget, a virtually imperceptible amount. This is practically the definition of penny wise and pound foolish.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2462 "2014-09-11T17:56:49Z")

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[Teh stoopid is neatly distilled into the lead sentence:](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/nyregion/primary-behind-him-andrew-cuomo-turns-his-focus-back-to-astorino.html)

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> Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo does not see the primary result on Tuesday as anything resembling a rebuke.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2463 "2014-09-11T18:56:02Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> [Teh stoopid is neatly distilled into the lead sentence:](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/nyregion/primary-behind-him-andrew-cuomo-turns-his-focus-back-to-astorino.html)

I’m not too familiar with New York politics, but what did you expect him to say “Oh, woe is me, I only got 60% of the vote in the primary, I might as well concede the election now and retire in shame?” Coakley, who admittedly is not a well-loved candidate, only managed 42% in Massachusetts. To me, 60% doesn’t sound like too sound a thrashing.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2464 "2014-09-30T12:53:18Z")

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As a liberal, it pains me to contribute to this thread (and resurrect it, it seems). But I just can’t let this go. In the current Pit thread about Smapti, he actually says [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17555747&postcount=271):

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I am a lifelong Democrat and it is personally my belief that we could solve a lot of the problems that exist in America today if President Obama were to exercise his authority under the Patriot Act to declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, and instruct law enforcement to deal with it appropriately.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2465 "2014-09-30T12:54:57Z")

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I’m hoping he was just joking. Usually, **Smapti** , is only that sincere when on his knees in front of a policeman’s penis.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2466 "2014-09-30T13:14:25Z")

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Based on the context of the thread, I’m disinclined to think he was joking.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2467 "2014-09-30T14:00:40Z")

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**Smapti** _is_ a stupid Democratic idea. I’m disinclined to call him a liberal given his neofascist tendencies, though (“law enforcement are always right and anyone who is shot by the police had it coming”).

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2468 "2014-09-30T14:10:16Z")

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Related to Smapti’s statement, RFK Jr has frequently said that climate change deniers should be jailed.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2469 "2014-09-30T14:19:29Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Related to Smapti’s statement, RFK Jr has frequently said that climate change deniers should be jailed.

…Is this the same RFK Jr. who is aggressively and virulently antivaccine?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2470 "2014-09-30T15:06:15Z")

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Yep.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2471 "2014-09-30T16:00:39Z")

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I can easily agree with both of these as stupid liberals. There’s no defending hailing political opponents, being anti-vaccine, or jailing climate change science opponents.

However, I do need to get my cheap political jabs where I can take them: it seems to me republicans are more unable to call out poor behavior or ideas from members of their party. I wish they would call out some of the more virulent hatred so prevalent in their fringe.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2472 "2014-09-30T16:04:48Z")

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We try, if it’s important enough. A lot of the people you want us to call out are rather unimportant state reps. We’re too busy responding to whatever Bachmann or Palin are saying on any given day.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2473 "2014-09-30T16:21:22Z")

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Well, you can pretty much ignore Palin now since she holds no offices at all. Soon, Bachmann too.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2474 "2014-09-30T16:23:16Z")

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Yeah, but now we’ve got Ted Cruz, who is really too smart to not know better. I like him, but he could be so much better.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2475 "2014-09-30T16:53:25Z")

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He represents Texas. He’s not allowed to know better.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2476 "2014-09-30T17:01:13Z")

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I’m perfectly willing to grant RFK Jr. as an example of a stupid liberal. IIRC at one time he was denouncing the peril of the NAFTA Highway, aka Interstate 69.

What office does he hold, again?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2477 "2014-09-30T17:20:35Z")

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The SRIOTD thread has not been limited to officeholders, though it’s fair to say RFK Jr. is only famous because of who his pappy was and his views are about as significant as those of some crazy dude down at the VFW.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2478 "2014-10-01T04:00:38Z")

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Obama passed the buck. Again:

[http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/obama-s-pass-the-buck-presidency-20140929](http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/obama-s-pass-the-buck-presidency-20140929)

And this time it’s not even plausible. He must really think his supporters are idiots.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2479 "2014-10-01T04:16:13Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Obama passed the buck. Again:
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> [http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/obama-s-pass-the-buck-presidency-20140929](http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/obama-s-pass-the-buck-presidency-20140929)
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> And this time it’s not even plausible. He must really think his supporters are idiots.

You’re a special flower.

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2480 "2014-10-01T04:18:44Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Obama passed the buck. Again:
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> [http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/obama-s-pass-the-buck-presidency-20140929](http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/obama-s-pass-the-buck-presidency-20140929)
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> And this time it’s not even plausible. He must really think his supporters are idiots.

Wrong again.

The _actual_ quote–which was buried in the partisan nonsense you linked to, since you couldn’t even be bothered to link [back to the actual interview](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-u-s-underestimated-rise-of-isis-in-iraq-and-syria/)

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> “Jim Clappper (sic) has acknowledged that I think they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria,”

How the fuck is that “passing the buck,” and even if Obama is abdicating any responsibility, why shouldn’t we believe the _factual statement that intelligence underestimated the dangers of Syria_?

Seriously, **adaher** , just stop already.

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