# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 126
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2501 "2014-10-11T16:06:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The Secret Service is right to do what they do. But Presidents and VPs and First Ladies should really be more mindful of how impractical it is to travel and do it less. It’s a rather large cost to taxpayers plus a minor blow to economic activity wherever they go. Hmmm. I was going to point out that buying an ice cream cone is stimulative of the economy, but you might have a point in that the disruption of people’s comings and goings probably outweighs the benefit of an extra ice cream cone sale. But wait! What if we add some wild card to provide a multiplier effect to that ice cream come? The solution leaps out at us, plain as day! Whenever Oprah Winfrey publicly eats a treat, the sales of that treat go through the roof. So, if Da Veep wants to stop for ice cream, he just calls Oprah to join him. She does, they nosh, and before you know it, sales skyrocket so much that a little traffic jam in Grover’s Corner’s hardly matters! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2502 "2014-10-11T16:49:14Z")
Would the VP have to pay for the ice cream? I’d imagine - if it were my ice cream shop - that he’d get the ice cream for free, irrespective of which party he was a part of. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2503 "2014-10-15T04:32:07Z")
Sigh. Even Democrats can be morons. Mark Pryor: “[I consider people making $200,000 middle class.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pryor-cotton-debate-middle-class)” ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2504 "2014-10-15T05:09:17Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sigh. Even Democrats can be morons. Mark Pryor: “[I consider people making $200,000 middle class.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pryor-cotton-debate-middle-class)” Not sure I see the outrage here. We have the debate on the SDMB on a regular basis as to where the dividing line between middle class and “rich” is. $200K is certainly upper middle class but it’s hardly “Have the chauffeur fire up the Bentley, I want to have dinner in the Hamptons”-type money. Sure, in Arkansas, $200K/year is a crap-load of money, but that’s because Arkansas is ranked something like 47th overall in terms of mean income. So I guess the from a campaign standpoint, the comment might sound kind of tone deaf, but that’s not because he’s wrong; it’s because Arkansas is an economic backwater. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2505 "2014-10-15T13:43:56Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > Hell, as **clothy** and **adaher** have repeatedly shown in this thread, they’re largely incapable of recognizing _liberal_ stupidity. We’re drowning in it daily. It’s kinda hard to NOT recognize it. Unless, of course, one is liberal. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2506 "2014-10-15T13:53:03Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We’re drowning in it daily. Awww. Somebody needs his diaper changed! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2507 "2014-10-15T13:56:17Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We’re drowning in it daily. It’s kinda hard to NOT recognize it. Unless, of course, one is liberal. There is stupidity on the liberal side, to be sure. The trouble is, you’re so full of incorrect information that what you are outraged about things that aren’t real. You see liberal stupidity everywhere, because the news you take in packages normal things as crazy and, at times, simply makes stuff up. It doesn’t help that you’re from Texas, where your delusions are wide-spread and deep. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2508 "2014-10-15T14:01:08Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Not sure I see the outrage here. We have the debate on the SDMB on a regular basis as to where the dividing line between middle class and “rich” is. $200K is certainly upper middle class but it’s hardly “Have the chauffeur fire up the Bentley, I want to have dinner in the Hamptons”-type money. We all got on Mitt Romney for claiming that $250,000 was a “middle class” income (though Romney also claimed $100,000 [was not](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/14/1131849/-Mitt-Romney-reduce-taxes-on-middle-income-people-You-know-the-ones-making-250-000)). Having said that, I agree with Pryor. $200,000 is a reasonable annual salary for a successful physician, accountant or lawyer - the classic “middle class” occupations. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2509 "2014-10-15T14:06:47Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We’re drowning in it daily. It’s kinda hard to NOT recognize it. Unless, of course, one is liberal. Dude, if it wasn’t for some of the self-professed liberals here actually supplying content on your behalf, due to your clear incompetence in doing so, this thing probably wouldn’t have made it off the third page. But do continue your unwarranted sneering if that makes you feel better about yourself. Putz. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2510 "2014-10-15T14:49:23Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Having said that, I agree with Pryor. $200,000 is a reasonable annual salary for a successful physician, accountant or lawyer - the classic “middle class” occupations. I don’t think these are the classic middle class occupations – I would categorize the following as classic “middle class”: plumber, auto worker, teacher, police officer, construction foreman, retail/restaurant manager, etc. Plenty of physicians, accountants, and lawyers are well beyond middle class, but you couldn’t say that about the occupations I mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2511 "2014-10-15T14:51:45Z")
Historically, the defining factors of the middle class were tertiary education and professional qualifications. Hence, the qualifier “classic”. You are describing mostly working-class occupations. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2512 "2014-10-15T14:55:43Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Historically, the defining factors of the middle class were tertiary education and professional qualifications. Hence, the qualifier “classic”. You are describing mostly working-class occupations. Okay. Sounds reasonable, especially with some further googling. I withdraw my objection. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2513 "2014-10-16T00:36:48Z")
NM ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2514 "2014-10-16T00:37:52Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > At least I’m not as full of shit as you are, Lobo. Fuck off. When come back, bring content. And pie. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2515 "2014-10-16T02:18:38Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > NM This my favorite post by you, ever. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2516 "2014-10-16T02:30:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sigh. Even Democrats can be morons. Mark Pryor: “[I consider people making $200,000 middle class.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pryor-cotton-debate-middle-class)” That’s not being a moron, it’s acknowledging political reality. In 2012, 28% of voters made over $100,000/yr. [http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president](http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president) Well off people vote. To a politician, the condition of the country is what it is to voters, not to the mass of people. The other factor is that poor people vote Democrat. People making over $100,000 though are not as fixed in their political leanings. Democrats need to peel off rich voters to win elections, and promising not to raise taxes except on the top 1% helps with that. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2517 "2014-10-16T03:06:46Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > This my favorite post by you, ever. It’s certainly both the most coherent and the most factual in a long while. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2518 "2014-10-17T16:46:46Z")
Well, this one takes the cake. Every time I think Obama can’t do anything more stupid than he already has, he comes through for us. Ebola is a problem, and a potentially severe one. So who does he pick to head up the crisis? A political hack instead of a doctor. > [@](#): > > President Obama announced who will take over as his newly created “Ebola czar.” > > Following weeks of criticism over the administration’s slow response to the Ebola virus reaching America’s shores, Obama took matters into his own hands, naming former Vice President Joe Biden’s Chief of Staff, Ron Klain, as Ebola czar. Klain will oversee all Ebola-related policy going forward. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2519 "2014-10-17T16:50:21Z")
GWB appointed three AIDS czars. Guess how many were physicians? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2520 "2014-10-17T16:55:56Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Well, this one takes the cake. Every time I think Obama can’t do anything more stupid than he already has, he comes through for us. Ebola is a problem, and a potentially severe one. So who does he pick to head up the crisis? A political hack instead of a doctor. An unnecessary solution to an exaggerated problem. If we’re gonna have an Ebola Czar (and we don’t need one), it ought to be an administrator type, not a doctor. We already have doctors at the CDC, NIH, and elsewhere. The Ebola Czar is mostly about PR, and thus a political-type is appropriate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=125) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=127)