# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/241 "2011-09-29T17:38:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > How can you possibly, on this board where conservatives, Republican and Tea Partiers come in for broad brush criticism and false accusations multiple times hourly, complain about this broad brush characterization toward the left, which, as far as I’m able to determine, is unanimus in attempting to portray conservatives and Republicans as racist? Wow. You never cease to amaze me. Just a few posts ago, someone quotes Garafalo as saying “probably” “some” “elements” and yet you continue to polarize the left. I think you need to reexamine the effort involved in “as far as I’m able to determine.” ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/242 "2011-09-29T17:58:51Z")
I think you need to reexamine who that “someone” was. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/243 "2011-09-29T18:09:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I think you need to reexamine who that “someone” was. 😃 It was me. Did I not quote her correctly as using the terms “probably” and “some of the Republicans”? Is there something about me personally that renders my quotations suspect? And when you say > [@](#): > > How can you possibly, on this board where conservatives, Republican and Tea Partiers come in for broad brush criticism and false accusations multiple times hourly, complain about this broad brush characterization toward the left First, although I’m sure people here do a broad brush to criticize the right, I"m confident it does not take place “hourly”. However, I will assume this is hyperbole. I guess that means I am allowed to use hyperbole in the future. Noted. Second it’s still incorrect to broadly generalize that because an actress said something, that means that the entire left embraces it. It does not matter if it has been done the other way around - it is still wrong. Because an actress said something, this means it is unanimous among the left? You’re joking, right? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/244 "2011-09-29T18:18:17Z")
> [@otternell](#): > > Wow did I find one! To be fair, I don’t know if this person is a “liberal” but it is definitely a Stupid Democratic Idea of the day/month/year. > > [Babysitting legislation in CA](http://www.theunion.com/ARTICLE/20110830/BREAKINGNEWS/110839991/-1/RSS): > > Maybe there is something good here that I missed, but it sure looks like a huge pain in the ass to me. It does look like its for 18 year olds who aren’t family members, so maybe its not that big of a deal, but it looks like a solution looking for a problem. I think the problem is the general deficit in the quality of employment for domestic workers, as matters currently stand in California. Your average babysitter for a “let’s go to a movie this Friday night” casual gig is not typically going to be over eighteen. That’s a high school girl’s (or boy’s) job. Senator Lamalfa is being disingenuous and misdirectional. Also, I find it charming that he has no comments enabled on his page. ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/245 "2011-09-29T19:46:19Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I think you need to reexamine who that “someone” was. 😃 Irrelevant. Garofalo has a reputation of being pretty darn liberal and yet her brush is liberally sprinkled with limiting qualifiers. That itself is evidence that the left isn’t blindly characterizing the right “unanimously”. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/246 "2011-09-29T20:13:11Z")
So I take it then that you don’t believe the left regards Republicans as racist? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/247 "2011-09-29T20:16:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So I take it then that you don’t believe the left regards Republicans as racist? Are you asking one person to answer on behalf of the entire left? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/248 "2011-09-29T20:30:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So I take it then that you don’t believe the left regards Republicans as racist? _Americans_ are racist. The Republicans are just better at exploiting it for electoral purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/249 "2011-09-29T20:31:03Z")
The left’s stance, as far as I’ve ever been able to tell is not that all Republicans are racist, but that, on the whole, there are far more racists in the Republican party than there are in the Democratic Party. I can see how a lesser intellect might interpret that as “The Left thinks we’re all racists!” … but there you go. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/250 "2011-09-29T20:32:36Z")
Exactly. Republicans are not typically racist, but racists are typically Republican. I know the nuance will be lost on **SA**. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/251 "2011-09-29T21:11:29Z")
[I can’t be the only one who is reminded of The Simpsons.](http://cdn1.newsone.com/files/2010/11/simpsons-fox-news1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/252 "2011-09-29T21:20:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So I take it then that you don’t believe the left regards Republicans as racist? There are elements of the left that regard elements of the Republicans as racist. There are also elements of the left that believe elements of the Republicans deliberately turn a blind eye to the racist (and other extremist) elements of their constituency. Both sides tend to stereotype the opposition as an amalgam of the worst traits they see. Thing is, Republicans are just more resistant to change by definition. That’s one of the things that makes a conservative a conservative. One of the other things is viewing any self-criticism of the party in open dialogue a betrayal of party. Whereas within the liberal Democrat side, we know are leaders are spineless and wishy washy and have little problem with self-criticism. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/253 "2011-09-29T21:21:35Z")
Anybody wanna offer $10 for every instance I can find on this board where one of the board’s lefties asserts that conservatives/Republicans/Tea Partiers are racist and not a single other leftie disputes it? Or where I can point to leftie politicians making the same claim? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/254 "2011-09-29T21:22:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Anybody wanna offer $10 for every instance I can find on this board where one of the board’s lefties asserts that conservatives/Republicans/Tea Partiers are racist and not a single other leftie disputes it? Or where I can point to leftie politicians making the same claim? Will it be discounted if the person being accuse of racism is actually being racist? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/255 "2011-09-29T21:24:10Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Anybody wanna offer $10 for every instance I can find on this board where one of the board’s lefties asserts that conservatives/Republicans/Tea Partiers are racist and not a single other leftie disputes it? Or where I can point to leftie politicians making the same claim? I’ll make it $20 if it gets rid of you for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/256 "2011-09-29T21:25:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Anybody wanna offer $10 for every instance I can find on this board where one of the board’s lefties asserts that conservatives/Republicans/Tea Partiers are racist and not a single other leftie disputes it? Or where I can point to leftie politicians making the same claim? What are you offering in return? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/257 "2011-09-29T21:31:55Z")
Don’t ask that! Just don’t! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/258 "2011-09-29T21:34:49Z")
My post above was directed at **Jack** **Batty** , btw. And, nope, **Biggirl** , no discounts. I’m not talking about instances where a specific person gets called a racist, primarily because real racism rarely has anything to do with those types of accusations. I’m talking about the same broad brush accusations that get hurled against conservatives around here all the time without a hint of the hair splitting and equivocation about percentages that has suddenly erupted in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/259 "2011-09-29T21:41:18Z")
We would need someone to make judgment calls, someone of strict impartiality and a sober, clear-eyed viewpoint. Have you any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/260 "2011-09-29T21:49:27Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > My post above was directed at **Jack** **Batty** , btw. > > And, nope, **Biggirl** , no discounts. I’m not talking about instances where a specific person gets called a racist, primarily because real racism rarely has anything to do with those types of accusations. I’m talking about the same broad brush accusations that get hurled against conservatives around here all the time without a hint of the hair splitting and equivocation about percentages that has suddenly erupted in this thread. Well then, fuck no. I can find countless examples of Tea Partyers, Republicans and conservatives who get called racists with no rebuttals from anyone because they being racist too. Will you pay me for that? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=14)