# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2621 "2014-10-23T01:56:23Z")
I actually don’t have any real issues over his handling of the ebola problem yet, although the CDC did drop the ball at first. But in the short term, anything can go wrong, it’s the long-term problems that got ignored by the President for months or years that i blame him for, not one-time fuckups by the bureaucracy. But the appointment of Klain, the more we know, the less good it looks. So you called that one right. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2622 "2014-10-23T01:57:46Z")
The Daily Fucking Signal? The Heritage rag? Really? Jeezum Christmas, you’re an idiot. A credulous idiot. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2623 "2014-10-23T02:00:28Z")
Jayjay, the basic facts about Klain in there are correct, even if you feel they have been portrayed in a poor light. He’s a career political hack and he lobbied for Fannie Mae to try to relax regulations on lending. It does not seem that he is qualified to do the job the President is asking him to do. YOu seem to be fond of attacking sources rather than debunking their arguments, which are easy to do when they are wrong. Fight ignorance, don’t perpetuate it. Even hacks get it right sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2624 "2014-10-23T02:02:03Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Although I ain’t holding my breath for it to happen. Give it a try. It might improve your brain function. ---
**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2625 "2014-10-23T02:08:11Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I caught a big steaming load of snark and bullshit from you people for daring to post this. You may all now line up, file by one by one, and apologize. > > [From Solyndra to Hanging Chads, Obama’s Ebola Czar Has Helped Cause More Crises Than He’s Solved](http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/22/solyndra-hanging-chads-obamas-ebola-czar-helped-cause-crises-hes-solved/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social) > > Although I ain’t holding my breath for it to happen. That would require you to admit I’m right (which I usually am) and you’d rather have your little haids > asplode before doing that. If you’re trying to raise flags about Klain, the LEAST you could do is offer up more than the standard right-wing drama-queening. There’s nothing in that link that anyone who’s not right-leaning - and thus, can think logically without letting their emotions get in the way - would find scandalous or even incompetent. This is why it’s so hard to take you guys seriously. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2626 "2014-10-23T02:14:06Z")
It’s not his incompetence, it’s his simple lack of any qualifications, plus some rather shady lobbying work for Fannie Mae. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2627 "2014-10-23T02:21:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s not his incompetence, it’s his simple lack of any qualifications, plus some rather shady lobbying work for Fannie Mae. Do I hear a Republican complaining about some lobbying for _looser_ banking regulations? Is this Bizzaro universe? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2628 "2014-10-23T02:25:42Z")
Fannie Mae isn’t just a bank. It’s a government sponsored entity and Republicans were never for looser lending regulations for a company implicitly backed by the taxpayers whose mission was to expand home ownership. Part of the problem was that the banks making bad loans could pass these loans off to Fannie Mae. ---
**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2629 "2014-10-23T02:41:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s not his incompetence, it’s his simple lack of any qualifications, plus some rather shady lobbying work for Fannie Mae. You need someone who has skills in coordinating many different entities and focusing them towards one goal. I actually can’t think of someone with more experience at that than political operatives. Maybe party planners. Why do you say he lacks qualifications? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2630 "2014-10-23T02:46:19Z")
An ex cabinet official, governor, or even mayor would be better for that than a career political operative. Campaigns are much smaller operations and he never actually ran a campaign. He’s spent most of his time as chief of staff or a lower level staffer. His highest position was as Biden’s chief of staff. Exactly how big is the VP’s staff and what do they really have to do? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2631 "2014-10-23T02:49:02Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s not his incompetence, it’s his simple lack of any qualifications, **plus some rather shady lobbying work for Fannie Mae**. You mean like [Rick Davis](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Davis_%28politics%29#Payments_from_Freddie_Mac_and_Fannie_Mae)? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2632 "2014-10-23T03:13:16Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > YOu seem to be fond of attacking sources rather than debunking their arguments, which are easy to do when they are wrong. Fight ignorance, don’t perpetuate it. Even hacks get it right sometimes. You seem to assume that my purpose in engaging with you (and Clothy, for that matter) is to persuade you to my point of view. It’s not. My purpose in engaging with you two (and several others here) is to ridicule your complete lack of factual knowledge about pretty much anything, and your complete lack of political sense in any way, shape or form. I’m primarily making fun of you. Why you’d think otherwise I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2633 "2014-10-23T03:25:11Z")
You don’t accomplish that by lazily attacking a source. Any 12-year old can say, “World Net Daily? Hah!” ---
**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2634 "2014-10-23T03:32:43Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > An ex cabinet official, governor, or even mayor would be better for that than a career political operative. Campaigns are much smaller operations and he never actually ran a campaign. He’s spent most of his time as chief of staff or a lower level staffer. His highest position was as Biden’s chief of staff. Exactly how big is the VP’s staff and what do they really have to do? You’re going by official titles rather than actual function. A title often doesn’t reflect the function a person serves. For all we know, Klain may well have functioned as a campaign manager or other high responsibility position and, for whatever reason, just never held the title. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2635 "2014-10-23T09:31:56Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > So liberals do not believe that the decision to undergo a legal medical procedure is between the patient and doctor? They do not believe the government should stay out of such private decisions? This isn’t what you said. You said “liberals only think patients and doctors’ judgement is sacrosanct for one damn medical procedure”. That’s false. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2636 "2014-10-23T09:54:54Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > You don’t accomplish that by lazily attacking a source. Any 12-year old can say, “World Net Daily? Hah!” World Net Daily routinely lies. You’d be as good citing your uncle Ralph. You want to be taken seriously, cite sources that aren’t literally insane. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2637 "2014-10-23T10:06:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This isn’t what you said. You said “liberals only think patients and doctors’ judgement is sacrosanct for one damn medical procedure”. That’s false. Then name the second one. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2638 "2014-10-23T11:05:10Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Then name the second one. Pretty much all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2639 "2014-10-23T11:43:28Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > You don’t accomplish that by lazily attacking a source. Any 12-year old can say, “World Net Daily? Hah!” And they’d be completely justified. I mean, if I cite an article from Whale.to, do you do a point-by-point refutation, or do you just namedrop Scopie’s Law and call me a moron? Anyone stupid enough to cite Whale.to wouldn’t actually learn anything from the rebuttal anyways. That’s kind of where WND is. It’s bottom-of-the-barrel insane right-wing trolls. If you cite that website, we’re not going to rebut it, we’re going to laugh at you for being such a moron. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2640 "2014-10-23T12:22:43Z")
I attack the source because the source is demonstrably, objectively shit for anyone who doesn’t have their head firmly ensconced in Reince Priebus’s rectum. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=133)