# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2701 "2014-10-26T04:49:07Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Sorry. They didn’t just massage little bunny’s feet. They exercised the rabbits’ muscles, and studied how those muscles recovered in rabbits that received a massage compared to those that didn’t.

And the government, using our money, should pay for this why, exactly?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2702 "2014-10-26T04:50:12Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Because people who aren’t paying for things, who don’t have any skin in the game, can wish for the sky, including bunny rubs.
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> That doesn’t make it a good idea.

I was more than happy to pay for your family’s welfare, you can pay to have my bunny rubbed.

By the way, my share of the study was 12/100th of a cent.

You should get upset at real waste, not this penny ante shit.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2703 "2014-10-26T04:51:11Z")

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> {…} “If the researchers were seeking to learn how to identify the most optimal application of massage therapy to treat human muscle aches and injuries, then perhaps they should have observed human subjects," his {Sen. Tom Coburn} report says. "Instead, this study seems to have chased tax dollars down a rabbit hole.”
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> The rabbits participating in the study were euthanized, the report says. {…}[RIGHT][CITE](http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/10/22/tom-coburn-slams-nih-rabbit-massage-study-amid-ebola-funding-debate)[/RIGHT]

Given the euthanization and dissection, shall we take nominations for the human study?

Yeah, I can’t think of anyone that might be interested in treating human muscle aches and injuries.  
Nope the military wouldn’t be interested in that at all.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2704 "2014-10-26T04:52:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I was more than happy to pay for your family’s welfare, you can pay to have my bunny rubbed.
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> By the way, my share of the study was 12/100th of a cent.
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> You should get upset at real waste, not this penny ante shit.

Sorry, I never took any welfare.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2705 "2014-10-26T04:54:57Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Given the euthanization and dissection, shall we take nominations for the human study?
> 
> Yeah, I can’t think of anyone that might be interested in treating human muscle aches and injuries.  
> Nope the military wouldn’t be interested in that at all.

Wait a minute. So they rubbed the bunnies’ feet, and then killed them? Wow, that makes it better.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2706 "2014-10-26T04:57:46Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Given the euthanization and dissection, shall we take nominations for the human study?
> 
> Yeah, I can’t think of anyone that might be interested in treating human muscle aches and injuries.  
> Nope the military wouldn’t be interested in that at all.
> 
> CMC fnord!

Does Coburn not realize that human studies cost lots, lots more? And they have the potential for long term harm to the subjects?

Does he think that Pharmaceutical companies just say ‘screw the white mice, where going to human trials as soon as the first pill is formed!’?

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**Author:** ![rsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rsa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsa)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2707 "2014-10-26T05:00:17Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Wait a minute. So they rubbed the bunnies’ feet, and then killed them? Wow, that makes it better.

Hey, they didn’t complain anymore did they?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2708 "2014-10-26T05:01:37Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Sorry, I never took any welfare.

Bullshit. You got plenty of crap for free that was paid by the taxes of others

In answer to your question, I do pay taxes and I focus on the stuff that matters.  
[Like this.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge)

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> The Gravina Island Bridge, commonly referred to as the “Bridge to Nowhere”, was a proposed bridge to replace the ferry that currently connects the town of Ketchikan, Alaska, United States, with Gravina Island, an island that contains the Ketchikan International Airport as well as 50 residents. The bridge was projected to cost $398 million.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2709 "2014-10-26T05:05:35Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> And the government, using our money, should pay for this why, exactly?

I don’t know that it should; but for fuck’s sake dude, if you want to discuss it then discuss it for what it is. Don’t just say that they were massaging bunnies’ feet as if that’s the whole story.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2710 "2014-10-26T05:07:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> In answer to your question, I do pay taxes and I focus on the stuff that matters.  
> [Like this.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge)

According to your own link, the bill didn’t pass. Unless you have another link, Grandpa? 😕

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2711 "2014-10-26T05:12:55Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> According to your own link, the bill didn’t pass. Unless you have another link, Grandpa? 😕

Read the whole thing. I’m sorry I don’t have a version geared to a first grade reading level but them’s the breaks.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2712 "2014-10-26T05:14:50Z")

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Here, I’ll spoon-feed it to you.

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> fter canceling the bridge, Palin’s administration s **pent more than $25 million to build the Gravina Island Highway, which would have connected with the proposed bridge**. According to Alaskan state officials, **the road project went ahead because the money came from the federal government, and would otherwise have had to be returned**. Because “no one seems to use” this road, it has been called the “road to nowhere” by CNN, many local Alaskans, and hundreds of other media sources.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2713 "2014-10-26T05:15:35Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Read the whole thing. I’m sorry I don’t have a version geared to a first grade reading level but them’s the breaks.

Failed by recorded vote: 181 - 246, 2

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2714 "2014-10-26T05:27:00Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Holy shit **mhendo** , I can’t remember the last time I saw anyone get their asses handed to them in such a polite manner. Well done.

Yeah, he’s on a serious fuckin’ roll right now.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2715 "2014-10-26T05:29:38Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> I just checked a third time, and the link is not behind a subscription/paywall. Why you’re arguing this is beyond me. And no, I’m not a member of Digital Plus or whatever they call it.
> 
> [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html)

I clicked that link and got

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> To continue reading this PLUS story, you need to be a digital member. Choose an option below to continue. If you’re already registered just sign in below. Need help?
> 
> Already a subscriber? You could be eligible for an upgrade.
> 
> Get started  
> Enter your Zip code to see your options.  
> Already registered? Sign in  
> No Thanks

and it appeared in a pop-up so I couldn’t continue without clicking one of the options.

You’re an idiot. A cookie hoarding idiot.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2716 "2014-10-26T05:35:35Z")

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It’s not my fault the SDMB is infested with people who can’t think for themselves.

The Kass article doesn’t require any registration, or payment.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2717 "2014-10-26T05:42:37Z")

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Sock or troll . . . I’m going with sock - 500 quatloos.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2718 "2014-10-26T10:28:35Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I clicked that link and got and it appeared in a pop-up so I couldn’t continue without clicking one of the options.

FWIW I get

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> Premium content is currently available only to users within the United States.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2719 "2014-10-26T12:02:23Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I clicked that link and got and it appeared in a pop-up so I couldn’t continue without clicking one of the options.
> 
> You’re an idiot. A cookie hoarding idiot.

I go the same thing. When I clicked the ‘no’ option the pop-up it threw me to the main page of the paper.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2720 "2014-10-26T12:41:27Z")

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The [Kentucky Democratic Party](http://abcnews.go.com/Business/political-mailer-speaks-volumes-lack-data-security-knowledge/story?id=26433957) has earned this morning’s award for cluelessness.

In a local race for representative in District 23 in Kentucky’s House of Representatives, the Democratic Party wanted to highlight the Republican challenger’s prior arrest for DUI. Fair game so far.

But in a political mailer paid for by the state Democratic Party, the Republican challenger’s full arrest report was duplicated including his personally identifiable information including his address and social security number. _Uh, hello!? Anyone ever heard of identity theft?_

You can make the point about the guy’s arrest history by releasing the guy’s mugshot. Mailing his social security number and personal details to a thousand or more people doesn’t add anything to the narrative.

When asked about the release, the Democratic Party response left much to be desired.

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> The Kentucky Democratic Party’s response beggars the imagination. “The Republican Party should be ashamed for defending Jobe, who has been caught drunk driving repeatedly,” said the party’s Chairman Daniel Logsdon. “As for releasing public information about his arrests, we believe the voters of the 23rd District deserve to know the truth about Jeff Jobe.”

Jobe agrees that by entering politics his personal history is subject to scrutiny. But the Democratic party’s clueless response has allowed Jobe to control the conversation.

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