# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2741 "2014-10-27T04:40:12Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I think it’s time to stop feeding it, folks. > > I made the mistake of taking it seriously, but it clearly has nothing except retarded idiocy and blatant trollery. Good idea. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2742 "2014-10-27T04:43:38Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Those aren’t newspapers. Do you not know what a newspaper is? Jesus! > > We can talk about cable TV, but first let’s get you squared away on the tricky columnist/newspaper distinction. Maybe you can get squared away on the difference between cable and radio. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2743 "2014-10-27T04:43:50Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > . . . Bunny feet? You really sound like you need help. Serious professional help. Speaking as a furry… ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2744 "2014-10-27T04:44:02Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I’m quite willing to believe that across the US population, there’s not really a difference between conservatives and liberals in intelligence. > > So I am at a loss to understand why the vast majority of conservatives who post here are abjectly fucking stupid… Has anyone studied the correlation between political orientation and Myers-Briggs Types? SDMB is swamped with INTJ’s far out of proportion to the population. (This often bites me as I tend toward INTP-Perceptive rather than INTJ-Judgemental.) ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2745 "2014-10-27T04:45:29Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Speaking as a furry… Creep. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2746 "2014-10-27T04:47:51Z")
It’s getting close to time for D’Anconia to be put out of his misery … ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2747 "2014-10-27T04:51:26Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > It’s getting close to time for D’Anconia to be put out of his misery … What about Hentor, and Grandpa Pat? They accuse me of not knowing the difference between a newspaper and a columnist, yet, Hentor doesn’t know the difference between a cable tv station and radio. I guess if libs are stupid, it’s ok and accepted, around here. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2748 "2014-10-27T04:57:05Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What about Hentor, and Grandpa Pat? They accuse me of not knowing the difference between a newspaper and a columnist, yet, Hentor doesn’t know the difference between a cable tv station and radio. > > I guess if libs are stupid, it’s ok and accepted, around here. :smack: Maybe you should stop posting until you’ve been weaned. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2749 "2014-10-27T04:57:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Maybe you should stop posting until you’ve been weaned. Are you sitting on the pie? ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2750 "2014-10-27T12:24:06Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Highlighting liberal/leftist crap is not trolling. > > Bunny feet, again. [Lenny] "Tell me again about the bunny feet, George. [/Lenny] ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2751 "2014-10-27T12:34:49Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Why would a liberal newspaper hire a conservative columnist? Just for giggles? > > Please do have fun rubbing bunny feet. On the Washington Post Op-Ed webpage today, you can read George Will, Michael Chertoff, Carly Fiorina, Jennifer Rubin, Marc Thiessen, Michael Gerson, and Charles Krauthammer, and of course the editor is Fred Hiatt. That’s an awful lot of conservatives (and several former Bush administration officials) for a “liberal” paper. ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2752 "2014-10-27T12:38:21Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I sense a meme in its infancy. > > “But… but… but… rabbit massages!” BunnGhazi Or potentially WatershipDownGate ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2753 "2014-10-27T14:00:50Z")
With regards to the massage study, I will say that while it doesn’t seem like a complete waste of time, it does _come_ from what may be the single most egregious and obvious wastes of money in the US: the National Center For Complementary and Alternative Medicine, NCCAM. An organization that has wasted taxpayer dollars examining, among other things: - Acupuncture - Homeopathy - Reiki - Prayer (AKA “Western Reiki”) - Chelation Therapy - Colonic Cleansing …In other words, it’s essentially spending taxpayer dollars to push bad science. That said, this study seemed at least somewhat reasonable. So yeah. Broken clocks and whatnot. ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2754 "2014-10-27T14:32:50Z")
They should be the easiest group to fund. Chuck a penny into a swimming pool - boom, Homoeopathic money bin to spend on whatever they want. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2755 "2014-10-27T14:38:05Z")
It gets even worse when you consider what Tom Harkin, one of its foremost cheerleaders, has to say about it proving many “alternative” therapies meritless. Spoiler warning: he’s not happy about it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2756 "2014-10-27T14:48:06Z")
… bunny feet? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2757 "2014-10-27T14:58:32Z")
I’m not sure if you missed his [first post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17844480&postcount=2651) or if you’re just slightly dumbfounded at the inanity. So there’s the link for the former and if it’s the latter, I hope you don’t mind if I join you. o\_O ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2758 "2014-10-27T15:07:37Z")
> [@Double\_Foolscap](#): > > Or potentially WatershipDownGate \<_golf clap_\> ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2759 "2014-10-27T15:31:47Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > With regards to the massage study, I will say that while it doesn’t seem like a complete waste of time, it does _come_ from what may be the single most egregious and obvious wastes of money in the US: the National Center For Complementary and Alternative Medicine, NCCAM. An organization that has wasted taxpayer dollars examining, among other things: > > - Acupuncture > - Homeopathy > - Reiki > - Prayer (AKA “Western Reiki”) > - Chelation Therapy > - Colonic Cleansing > > …In other words, it’s essentially spending taxpayer dollars to push bad science. Although I suppose it they demonstrated that none of this stuff works and thus shouldn’t be included in government funded healthcare, it would end up being a net win. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2760 "2014-10-27T15:42:45Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > With regards to the massage study, I will say that while it doesn’t seem like a complete waste of time, it does _come_ from what may be the single most egregious and obvious wastes of money in the US: the National Center For Complementary and Alternative Medicine, NCCAM. An organization that has wasted taxpayer dollars examining, among other things: > > - Acupuncture > - Homeopathy > - Reiki > - Prayer (AKA “Western Reiki”) > - Chelation Therapy > - Colonic Cleansing > > …In other words, it’s essentially spending taxpayer dollars to push bad science. > > That said, this study seemed at least somewhat reasonable. So yeah. Broken clocks and whatnot. They aren’t exactly pushing bad science. Check out their [page on Homeopathy](http://nccam.nih.gov/health/homeopathy). > [@](#): > > - There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition. > > - Although people sometimes assume that all homeopathic remedies are highly diluted and therefore unlikely to cause harm, some products labeled as homeopathic can contain substantial amounts of active ingredients and therefore could cause side effects and drug interactions. > > - Homeopathic remedies are regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). However, FDA does not evaluate the remedies for safety or effectiveness. > > - Several key concepts of homeopathy are inconsistent with fundamental concepts of chemistry and physics. There are significant challenges in carrying out rigorous clinical research on homeopathic remedies. Actually given the fact that these pseudo science treatments aren’t going away it makes sense to study them so that 1. You can definitively show that they don’t do anything. Hopefully putting to rest the idea that it is only the close mindedness of the medical community that is preventing the cure to cancer. Also you need to provide a counter ballance for non-placebo controlled poorly designed studies published in vanity journals by the treatments proponents,. 2. You can determine whether the alternative treatments might actually be harmful. 3. There is always the chance that the 2,000 years of tradition might actually have been on to something and that it might be possible to turn one of the treatments from alternative medicine into actual medicine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=139)