# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 141
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2801 "2014-10-27T20:54:40Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > So why do you lie about it if you have no need to lie about it? What did I lie about? Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2802 "2014-10-27T20:55:15Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > That was supposed to be sarcasm. > > A day or two ago posters were claiming that they absolutely couldn’t access the Tribune website without a subscription. > > They can’t have it both ways. Specifically it was a columnists link that was blocked w/o subscription, and several folks pointed out that it tossed you to the main page of the Tribune, so access was certainly possible. You are just very bad at this. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2803 "2014-10-27T20:58:48Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What did I lie about? Cite? Post #2764 is a gross misrepresentation of the study. In short, a lie, albeit one you are merely repeating from another liar. mhendo’s response to that pretty much proves it was a lie if the previous posts hadn’t done so already. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2804 "2014-10-27T21:02:04Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Specifically it was a columnists link that was blocked w/o subscription, and several folks pointed out that it tossed you to the main page of the Tribune, so access was certainly possible. > > You are just very bad at this. No, you and your ilk are very bad at this. There was no blockage. I don’t have a subscription, and I accessed the column at least four times. Oh wait, now it’s five times. [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html) Jerks. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2805 "2014-10-27T21:05:39Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What did I lie about? Cite? After all the cites you’ve already been given, we’re about three posts shy of starting a “Stupid D’Anconia idea of the day” thread. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2806 "2014-10-27T21:08:10Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, you and your ilk are very bad at this. There was no blockage. I don’t have a subscription, and I accessed the column at least four times. > > Oh wait, now it’s five times. > > [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html) > > Jerks. I just clicked on your link, jerk, and got this message: > [@](#): > > To continue reading this PLUS story, you need to be a digital member. Choose an option below to continue. If you’re already registered just sign in below: ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2807 "2014-10-27T21:10:45Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Specifically it was a columnists link that was blocked w/o subscription, and several folks pointed out that it tossed you to the main page of the Tribune, so access was certainly possible. > > You are just very bad at this. Not that anyone here at all harbors any doubts about this lying little bitch, but my experience with that link was the same as Snowboader Bo: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17846732&postcount=2715](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17846732&postcount=2715) I could see the title and byline and could scroll down about a paragraph or so, and then the text was covered by the popup that Snowboader Bo described. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2808 "2014-10-27T21:12:22Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > That was supposed to be sarcasm. > > A day or two ago posters were claiming that they absolutely couldn’t access the Tribune website without a subscription. > > They can’t have it both ways. The Trib website lies behind a paywall. I’m very happy that you can see the article in question. I cannot. Would you like a screenshot, or will you call me a liar even then? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2809 "2014-10-27T21:14:37Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, you and your ilk are very bad at this. There was no blockage. I don’t have a subscription, and I accessed the column at least four times. > > Oh wait, now it’s five times. > > [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html) > > Jerks. I still get a paywall for this one. I cannot access it without registering. Don’t know if it’s a different browser or what, but this is definitely not a made-up paywall. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2810 "2014-10-27T21:17:52Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I can’t read your link. It requires a subscription. :rolleyes: > > They used to conservative, sure. But endorsing BHO not once, but twice? Endorsing Richard “Little Dick” Durbin" again? Even their endorsements in local races are highly suspect, if they are supposed to be “conservative”. FTR, this year they are endorsing Bruce Rauner, a wealthy conservative, over Pat “Universally Despised” Quinn. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2811 "2014-10-27T21:27:34Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > :Now, i’m no research scientist or medical doctor, and i don’t claim to understand what Varenicline or fMRI neurofeedback are, but even my humanities-focused, baseball-addled brain can see quite a few studies there that clearly pertain to issues of addiction. > > The extensive results gained from the NIH grants demonstrates very clearly that the NIH did not simply hand over $370,000 to ask whether moms love dogs as much as kids. The only thing the Wastebook doesn’t misrepresent is the study itself, but it does misrepresent the issue that is central to the Wastebook: the allocation of funding. It does this by a tricky and slippery and (i believe) deliberately deceptive rhetorical slide in which it strongly suggests, but never quite states outright, that all $370K was used for the study. > > And it is here that we arrive at Doofus Junior, because **D’Anconia** actually manages to up the ante on the Senator’s dishonesty. Rather than remaining content to simply imply that all of the money had been used for this one study, he states outright that all the money was spent for this study, and goes even further by alleging that the money used for this study was “supposed be devoted to addiction research.” Basically, he not only accuses the scientists of spending government money on research that he considers irrelevant; he implies that they have done so fraudulently, and have misused the funds. > > I think Al Franken needs to write a second edition of his book, _Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them_, just so he can include Senator Coburn and D’Anconia. > > And now i think i really am done with Doofus Junior. He’s either so stupid as to not be worth the time, or a really good troll who’s just going to come back with another lie. Either way, he offers nothing to the discussion. fMRI is an imaging technique that shows the response of the brain to various stimuli by measuring blood flow. I have no idea how much the equipment would cost to run an fMRI but I doubt the research group had to pick up the tab for the equipment itself. There might be a cost to the group and I guarantee at least part of the grant went to institutional overhead (which is something that pisses me off a lot more than some of the piddly amounts we’re talking about here.) In my experience, funding agencies are very insistent that anything that could possibly be linked to their funding be included in any publications. I’ve seen grants be mentioned because the grant money paid for equipment that was bought for a different group but was used as a one-off for the research that was published. Something that low in the list could easily be shared equipment or time. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2812 "2014-10-27T21:31:26Z")
> **[Teal pumpkins bring food allergy awareness to Halloween](https://www.freep.com/story/life/family/kristen-jordan-shamus/2014/10/27/teal-pumpkin-project-halloween/17974973/)** > > Trick-or-treaters can get safe treats at homes with teal pumpkins WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2813 "2014-10-27T21:37:19Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, you and your ilk are very bad at this. There was no blockage. I don’t have a subscription, and I accessed the column at least four times. > > Oh wait, now it’s five times. > > [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html) > > Jerks. Liar, liar, panties on fire: > **[Photo Storage](https://photobucket.com)** > > Store your photos and videos online with secure storage from Photobucket. Available on iOS, Android and desktop. Securely backup your memories and sign up today! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2814 "2014-10-27T21:39:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Liar, liar, panties on fire: > > [Photo Storage](http://s808.photobucket.com/user/Edgewiser/media-full/Mobile%20Uploads/blocked.jpg.html) I’m very sorry you can’t use the internet. I don’t have a subscription and yet, I can access the column. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2815 "2014-10-27T21:39:49Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > [Teal pumpkins bring food allergy awareness to Halloween](http://www.freep.com/story/life/family/kristen-jordan-shamus/2014/10/27/teal-pumpkin-project-halloween/17974973/) > > WTF? What the fuck is your problem with this? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2816 "2014-10-27T21:40:08Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Liar, liar, panties on fire: > > [Photo Storage](http://s808.photobucket.com/user/Edgewiser/media-full/Mobile%20Uploads/blocked.jpg.html) Yep, that’s what I get. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2817 "2014-10-27T21:40:58Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > [Teal pumpkins bring food allergy awareness to Halloween](http://www.freep.com/story/life/family/kristen-jordan-shamus/2014/10/27/teal-pumpkin-project-halloween/17974973/) > > WTF? Which part is confusing to you, allergies, children, pumpkins or the color teal? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2818 "2014-10-27T21:40:59Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I’m very sorry you can’t use the internet. I don’t have a subscription and yet, I can access the column. No you can’t. You’re making it all up. You have no cite. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2819 "2014-10-27T21:41:02Z")
Someone did note that if you had java off the pop-up didn’t h as open. But most folks tend to not do that. And no, running your browser with JavaScript off does not make you “hardcore”. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2820 "2014-10-27T21:46:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What the fuck is your problem with this? No kid wants stickers, pencils, or flashcards for Halloween. If this alleged “food allergy” is such a problem, then why wasn’t it one in the 1970’s? The human race does not evolve that quickly, that it would suddenly be a problem in 2010, but not then. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=140) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=142)