# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 143
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2841 "2014-10-27T22:10:21Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > And the cake is a lie. > > Also, these aren’t the droids you’re looking for. He’ll respect you in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2842 "2014-10-27T22:12:18Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No kid wants stickers, pencils, or flashcards for Halloween. > > If this alleged “food allergy” is such a problem, then why wasn’t it one in the 1970’s? The human race does not evolve that quickly, that it would suddenly be a problem in 2010, but not then. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Of course… all those kids dying from allergic reactions and anaphylactic shock are just faking it. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > How did it change so quickly, then? > [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Well, I’m not a doctor, but googling “why have food allergies increased” led me to the UCLA health website: [http://fooddrugallergy.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=40](http://fooddrugallergy.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=40) I wonder if the research to anser **D’Anc** ’s question was funded by the NIH. The government is spending millions to find out if kids like candy. This is an outrage! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2843 "2014-10-27T22:12:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You were shown a screen shot of the paywall, liar. elucidator said he could access it just fine, just a few posts ago. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2844 "2014-10-27T22:18:09Z")
Maybe I misunderstood? We’re talking about the link to the article about non-citizen voting, yes? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2845 "2014-10-27T22:21:27Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > elucidator said he could access it just fine, just a few posts ago. Boy, you are dumber than a bag of hammers. Do you understand the concept of Javascript? I can get the page to load, but only if I am using a browser with Javascript disabled. For the customs of this message board, that counts as a paywall. An easily-circumventable paywall, but a paywall nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2846 "2014-10-27T22:24:52Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > How did it change so quickly, then? Don’t know, but it definitely has changed. Many problems in health have changed – cancer rates, obesity, diabetes… why would it be so hard to believe allergies have changed as well? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2847 "2014-10-27T22:26:30Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > There is no paywall. Yes there is. Just because there is no paywall for you doesn’t mean that’s the case for everyone. When it’s raining outside, do you assume everyone on earth is getting wet? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2848 "2014-10-27T22:41:36Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I wonder if the research to anser **D’Anc** ’s question was funded by the NIH. > > The government is spending millions to find out if kids like candy. This is an outrage! Joking aside, they do: [Expired RFA-AI-09-039: Consortium of Food Allergy Research (CoFAR) and CoFAR Statistical and Clinical Coordinating Center (CoFAR SACCC) (U19 and U01)](http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/rfa-files/RFA-AI-09-039.html) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2849 "2014-10-27T23:41:53Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > A day or two ago posters were claiming that they absolutely couldn’t access the Tribune website without a subscription. News stories have a paywall. That particular part of the Trib (the mission statement) doesn’t. (Sorry, missed an entire page of responses. Anyhow, I do get stuck behind the paywall often. Good to know there’s a way to circumvent it. I had no idea.) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2850 "2014-10-27T23:55:12Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, you and your ilk are very bad at this. There was no blockage. I don’t have a subscription, and I accessed the column at least four times. > > Oh wait, now it’s five times. > > [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html) > > Jerks. That one shows up as a paywall article for me, too, with the same pop-up as the screenshot as posted before. Anyhow, I’ll help you out. [Here’s a non-paywall link to the article](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html) I found via Kass’s Facebook page. At least it’s not behind a paywall for me. ETA: Actually, this is weird. Now after a couple times, the original article is not showing up under the paywall, and both the URLs are the same. I’m confused. Anyhow, I clicked on the October 24 post [here](https://www.facebook.com/JohnKassTribune) and it didn’t send me to a paywall. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2851 "2014-10-28T01:27:49Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No kid wants stickers, pencils, or flashcards for Halloween. > > If this alleged “food allergy” is such a problem, then why wasn’t it one in the 1970’s? The human race does not evolve that quickly, that it would suddenly be a problem in 2010, but not then. Humans don’t, but the food supply has, especially since companies started meddling with germplasm. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I’ve already posted the cite five times. I get the same popups the others do. Chrome, Windows 7, no Java plugin. \ You really think you’re the only person here who can use the Internet properly? Have you cleared your cache lately? Maybe what you’re seeing is a local copy of that article, not the actual site. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2852 "2014-10-28T03:04:48Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > That one shows up as a paywall article for me, too, with the same pop-up as the screenshot as posted before. > > Anyhow, I’ll help you out. [Here’s a non-paywall link to the article](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1024-20141023-column.html) I found via Kass’s Facebook page. At least it’s not behind a paywall for me. > > ETA: Actually, this is weird. Now after a couple times, the original article is not showing up under the paywall, and both the URLs are the same. I’m confused. Anyhow, I clicked on the October 24 post [here](https://www.facebook.com/JohnKassTribune) and it didn’t send me to a paywall. Maybe try [this link](http://trib.in/ZPrbBq) and see if it works. I tried on another computer, and every single time, it sent me to the paywall, and then when I clicked on the Facebook link, it got me through. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2853 "2014-10-28T03:05:46Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Protip: You got your ass handed to you, and pretending you can still fight is just making you look sad. > > Whimper and crawl away. You’ve earned it. [It’s just a flesh wound!](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/877/3qafhk.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2854 "2014-10-28T03:47:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I clicked the link, opened just fine, no prob. Wasn’t that impressed with it, mind, but I could read it just fine. > > And the custom hereabouts is for someone to say “Welcome to the Boards”, so somebody should do that. Speaking as a guy who often DOES say just that to most of the new posters I see, I wish to be allowed to say: **D’Anconia** , welco – nah, I’m gonna pass on this one. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2855 "2014-10-28T04:01:08Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I can get the page to load, but only if I am using a browser with Javascript disabled. For the customs of this message board, that counts as a paywall. An easily-circumventable paywall, but a paywall nonetheless. Disabling JavaScript doesn’t cost anything, so describing it as being behind a “paywall” is bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2856 "2014-10-28T04:05:52Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Humans don’t, but the food supply has, especially since companies started meddling with germplasm. There’s no such thing as “germplasm”.\* I thought we were fighting ignorance, not perpetuating it. \*The little red squiggly line under your “word” should give you a heads up. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2857 "2014-10-28T04:10:12Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Don’t know, but it definitely has changed. Many problems in health have changed – cancer rates, obesity, diabetes… why would it be so hard to believe allergies have changed as well? That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works. Evolution occurs over millennia, not the last thirty or forty years. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2858 "2014-10-28T04:13:12Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > There’s no such thing as “germplasm”.\* I thought we were fighting ignorance, not perpetuating it. > \*The little red squiggly line under your “word” should give you a heads up. What are you, an idiot? The red squiggly line doesn’t mean it’s not a real word; it just means that it’s not a word in the dictionary of the software application that decides where to hand out the red squiggly lines. ETA: [just in case you ARE an idiot:](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/germplasm) > [@merriam-webster.com](#): > > Definition of GERMPLASM > 1 > : germ cells and their precursors serving as the bearers of heredity and being fundamentally independent of other cells > 2 > : the hereditary material of the germ cells : genes > First Known Use of GERMPLASM > 1889 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2859 "2014-10-28T04:15:58Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What are you, an idiot? The red squiggly line doesn’t mean it’s not a real word; it just means that it’s not a word in the dictionary of the software application that decides where to hand out the red squiggly lines. Thanks for pointing out the obvious, Gramps. Germplasm still isn’t a word. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2860 "2014-10-28T04:27:18Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Thanks for pointing out the obvious, Gramps. > > Germplasm still isn’t a word. [Merriam-Webster:](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/germplasm) Definition of GERMPLASM 1 : germ cells and their precursors serving as the bearers of heredity and being fundamentally independent of other cells 2 : the hereditary material of the germ cells : genes [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=142) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=144)