# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2881 "2014-10-28T14:03:11Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works. Evolution occurs over millennia, not the last thirty or forty years.

Wrong again!

A recent study on native and invasive exotic lizard species shows that, when influenced by severe competition, measurable evolution of physical characteristics (e.g., toepad size and configuration) and behaviors (e.g., preferred foraging height) can occur in less than twenty years ([cite](http://www.anoleannals.org/2014/10/25/rapid-evolution-in-anolis-carolinensis-following-the-invasion-of-anolis-sagrei/)).

(That ignorance-fighting thing – it’s taking longer than we thought! This one seems actively resistant.)

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2882 "2014-10-28T14:17:17Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> (That ignorance-fighting thing – it’s taking longer than we thought! This one seems actively resistant.)

And this “old man” or “gramps” schtick is just stupid. It smacks of trollery almost as much as the manifest abject stupidity.

If this person were real, then it would essentially be saying “I’m really stupid AND I’m a child.” The “old man” thing would only work if you were actually smart, and were bringing some knowledge or perspective that older people were more likely to lack. Plus, it’s the internet. You’ve got no idea of other people’s ages.

So, poor form, troll. Try to be more subtle about how you weave in your character’s details.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2883 "2014-10-28T14:27:24Z")

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Young men _think_ old men are fools. Old men _remember_ that young men are fools.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2884 "2014-10-28T16:06:08Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> No kid wants stickers, pencils, or flashcards for Halloween.
> 
> If this alleged “food allergy” is such a problem, then why wasn’t it one in the 1970’s? The human race does not evolve that quickly, that it would suddenly be a problem in 2010, but not then.

Actually, I would have _LOVED_ to get stickers when I was a little girl. The article mentioned temporary tattoos and glow sticks – that would have been even better!

We’ve had conversations about your 2nd question here numerous times, and although the definitive answer is still “We don’t quite know,” there are several theories, some of which could overlap or even happen concurrently. Here’s a few off the top of my head:

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[li]Peanut butter used to be considered po’ folk food, and poverty-stricken children often have internal parasites that can change how the immune system functions. Nowadays, it’s the food of picky little special snowflakes who will only eat three foods.[/li]  
[li]Our immune systems in general aren’t functioning properly in the overly-sanitized world in which many of us now live. Germophobes have re-defined what it means to be clean, and since our immune systems don’t fight against the “usual” bugs, they now attack any old thing, including peanut proteins, instead.[/li]  
[li]Kids die. Back in the day, kids died frequently. Often, nobody knew why. Medicine advances constantly, and we know now a few things that we didn’t know then (with apologies to Pete Seger) so deaths are more accurately attributable than they used to be.[/li][/ul]

Many people on this board would love to have this conversation with you, if you can contribute civil posts to the conversation, by either adding questions, or facts – the real, verifiable, cited kind.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2885 "2014-10-28T18:19:38Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Actually, I would have _LOVED_ to get stickers when I was a little girl. The article mentioned temporary tattoos and glow sticks – that would have been even better!
> 
> We’ve had conversations about your 2nd question here numerous times, and although the definitive answer is still “We don’t quite know,” there are several theories, some of which could overlap or even happen concurrently. Here’s a few off the top of my head:
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> [ul]  
> [li]Peanut butter used to be considered po’ folk food, and poverty-stricken children often have internal parasites that can change how the immune system functions. Nowadays, it’s the food of picky little special snowflakes who will only eat three foods.[/li]  
> [li]Our immune systems in general aren’t functioning properly in the overly-sanitized world in which many of us now live. Germophobes have re-defined what it means to be clean, and since our immune systems don’t fight against the “usual” bugs, they now attack any old thing, including peanut proteins, instead.[/li]  
> [li]Kids die. Back in the day, kids died frequently. Often, nobody knew why. Medicine advances constantly, and we know now a few things that we didn’t know then (with apologies to Pete Seger) so deaths are more accurately attributable than they used to be.[/li][/ul]
> 
> Many people on this board would love to have this conversation with you, if you can contribute civil posts to the conversation, by either adding questions, or facts – the real, verifiable, cited kind.

Another potential: [dry roasting](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/09/21/could-the-dry-roasting-process-trigger-peanut-allergies-yes-says-a-new-oxford-study/) causes chemical changes in peanuts that may make them more likely to trigger an allergic reaction.

This would make (extremely superficial) sense given that when I was a wee tad mubmlemumble years ago — at any rate, before dry roasting was introduced — peanut allergies were pretty much unheard of and anyone who suggested that one could be allergic to peanut butter would be looked on as completely unhinged.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2886 "2014-10-28T18:29:16Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Very well. Carry one, but remember it’s your responsibility. You have to clean up after it, and take it for walkies.  
> Then massage its feet afterwards. Gotta earn that grant.

Screw getting the grant. How do I sign up as one of the bunnies. Free footrubs? And why not?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2887 "2014-10-28T19:15:48Z")

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> [@Abe\_Babe](#):
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> Screw getting the grant. How do I sign up as one of the bunnies. Free footrubs? And why not?

It’s what happens after the footrubs that you have to worry about.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2888 "2014-10-28T19:29:04Z")

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> [@Abe\_Babe](#):
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> Screw getting the grant. How do I sign up as one of the bunnies. Free footrubs? And why not?

Read the small print-the feet are detached before they are rubbed.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2889 "2014-10-28T20:29:56Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> [ul]  
> [li]Kids die. Back in the day, kids died frequently. Often, nobody knew why. Medicine advances constantly, and we know now a few things that we didn’t know then **(with apologies to Pete Seger)** so deaths are more accurately attributable than they used to be.[/li][/ul]

Ummm, _BOB_ Seger, maybe?

This ruling just came in from **D’Anconia** : I’m sorry, it appears you’ve invalidated your entire argument by including evidence that you can’t tell the difference between Pete Seeger and Bog Seger. You’ll have to go sit over there in the “can’t tell the difference between cable TV and radio” corner with **Hentor the Barbarian** for the remainder of the thread (we’re still decorating the “can’t tell the difference between Pete Seeger and Bob Seger” corner).

Looking at the bright side, though, at least you guys will have someone intelligent to talk to! 🙂

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2890 "2014-10-29T01:57:11Z")

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> [@Abe\_Babe](#):
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> Screw getting the grant. How do I sign up as one of the bunnies. Free footrubs? And why not?

> [@mhendo](#):
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> It’s what happens after the footrubs that you have to worry about.

[_Vincent Vega_] I ain’t saying it’s right. But you’re saying a foot massage don’t mean nothing, and I’m saying it does. Now look, I’ve given a million bunnies a million foot massages, and they all meant something. We act like they don’t, but they do, and that’s what’s so fucking cool about them. There’s a sensuous thing going on where you don’t talk about it, but you know it, the bunny knows it, fucking \*\*D’Anconia \*\*knew it, and the government should have fucking better known better. I mean, that’s his fucking _bunny_, man. He can’t be expected to have a sense of humor about that shit. You know what I’m saying? [/_VV_]

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2891 "2014-10-29T02:17:17Z")

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Maybe your method of massage differs from mine, but you know, touching a bunny’s feet and sticking your tongue in basic research ain’t the same fucking ballpark. It ain’t the same league. It ain’t even the same fucking sport. Look, bunny foot massages don’t mean shit.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2892 "2014-10-29T02:59:23Z")

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Holy Grud, how tempted I am to link to a semi-porn pic of Lola Bunny, writhing in physical ecstasy, getting a foot massage.

Yay the Internetz; you can find anything!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2893 "2014-10-29T03:00:26Z")

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Bravo!

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2894 "2014-10-29T06:43:57Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Holy Grud, how tempted I am to link to a semi-porn pic of Lola Bunny, writhing in physical ecstasy, getting a foot massage.
> 
> Yay the Internetz; you can find anything!

…

…Stop it, Boner. ☹

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2895 "2014-10-29T17:07:46Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Oh. My. Ghod.
> 
> I love this guy! He’s my new favorite! Please please please can we keep him?!?

Only if he agrees to [dress the part.](http://pulpfiction.wikia.com/wiki/The_Gimp)

😃

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**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2896 "2014-10-29T17:19:59Z")

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Hey guys, I found one!  
Ok, this is pretty mild, stupidity-wise, but this thread has always had to accept the merely ‘kinda-stupid’:  
[Cuomo Jokes That People Under Ebola Quarantine Can Pass Time Reading His Book](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/cuomo-people-under-quarantine-can-read-my-book.html)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2897 "2014-10-29T17:23:24Z")

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Can’t think of a better way to make 21 days feel like an eternity.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2898 "2014-10-31T04:21:16Z")

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Actual Wendy Davis tweet:

> [@](#):
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> Texans have a choice between tomorrow & yesterday—between championing equality & opportunity or repealing the Voting Rights Act & DREAM Act.

[http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/390930/wendy-davis-confused-about-what-governor-state-does-ian-tuttle](http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/390930/wendy-davis-confused-about-what-governor-state-does-ian-tuttle)

The DREAM Act passed? And does she know what governors do? Or perhaps she’s following the usual Democratic MO of assuming their minority supporters are stupid.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2899 "2014-10-31T04:29:10Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> And does she know what governors do?

Where in that tweet does it say that’s she’s referring to her actions as (she hopes) governor? There are other elections taking place next week, too.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/2900 "2014-10-31T04:40:24Z")

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Possibly, although given that she thinks the DREAM Act is law, I don’t even think she knows what she’s trying to say here.

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