# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/321 "2011-10-01T21:11:39Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Nope, it’s the fault of the left for making them think Republicans are racist and wouldn’t welcome them or vote for them. Because blacks are easily brainwashed, and incapable of making up their own minds. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/322 "2011-10-01T21:27:27Z")
No, it’s precisely because they are making up their own minds that they are entering Republican politics in ever increasing numbers. Plus they’re throwing off the shackles of Tomism which the left has been using to hold them back for so long. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/323 "2011-10-01T21:30:02Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, it’s precisely because they are making up their own minds that they are entering Republican politics in ever increasing numbers. So what were they doing when they ran as Democrats? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/324 "2011-10-01T21:33:25Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > The Democratic Party derives a good portion of its power from what is essentially a race-based spoils system consisting of affirmative action, the SDB and 8(a) programs, and similar set-asides, quotas and mandates that are not just informal party strategy but the law of the land. > > The Republicans apologized for the Southern Strategy years ago. When will the Democrats step up? Apologizing while continuing to press for more programs that hurt the poorer people, is bullshit. The Dems have advocated helping more people . The Repubs have pushed for concentrating wealth in the hands of the rich. That is what they should apologize for. The rich have had it their way since Reagan. In the Nixon tapes he was recorded having a conference with a couple Repub big wigs. They are planning strategy and it occurs to them, they don’t need blacks and the poor vote. They can count on the votes from people who became the radical right in the future. They can be fired up to vote in strong enough numbers to counter the poor and the blacks. It was a revelation that changed the whole political system. They had enough people who would vote for them, against their own economic interests, based on social or religious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/325 "2011-10-01T21:34:05Z")
Beats me. I don’t know why anybody runs as a Democrat. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/326 "2011-10-01T21:34:28Z")
Trying to get laid, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/327 "2011-10-01T21:37:28Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Beats me. I don’t know why anybody runs as a Democrat. So long as you are abandoning the “Democrats talked them into it!” nonsense, I guess personal ignorance is as good as any backup argument. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/328 "2011-10-01T21:39:57Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, it’s precisely because they are making up their own minds that they are entering Republican politics in ever increasing numbers. Really? Do tell. How many more have entered Republican politics in the recent past? > [@](#): > > Plus they’re throwing off the shackles of Tomism which the left has been using to hold them back for so long. Didn’t a black Democrat just recently get elected President of the United States? That’s some odd holding back going on there. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/329 "2011-10-01T21:59:18Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Really? Do tell. How many more have entered Republican politics in the recent past?Didn’t a black Democrat just recently get elected President of the United States? That’s some odd holding back going on there. See, this last statement alone should amply demonstrate that **Hector** isn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. Why would the left call one of its own a Tom? As for the first, I’d mention J.C. Watts, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, the recent Republican party head whose name unfortunately escapes me at the moment, Rep. West of Florida, and of course Herman Cain. I’m sure a Google search would turn up many more but the ones I mentioned are the ones who come most readily to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/330 "2011-10-01T22:03:19Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > As for the first, I’d mention J.C. Watts, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, the recent Republican party head whose name unfortunately escapes me at the moment, Rep. West of Florida, and of course Herman Cain. I’m sure a Google search would turn up many more but the ones I mentioned are the ones who come most readily to mind. Don’t forget Alan Keyes! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/331 "2011-10-01T22:10:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > See, this last statement alone should amply demonstrate that **Hector** isn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. > > Why would the left call one of its own a Tom? So, when you say the left has been holding them back for so long, who do you mean, then? Are you arguing that the _right_ elected Obama? Who is being held back, and by whom? > [@](#): > > As for the first, I’d mention J.C. Watts, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, the recent Republican party head whose name unfortunately escapes me at the moment, Rep. West of Florida, and of course Herman Cain. I’m sure a Google search would turn up many more but the ones I mentioned are the ones who come most readily to mind. None of those are numbers, stupid. You made a specific claim of “ever increasing numbers.” I want you to tell me how many, not to list off 5 people. Or are you claiming that prior to those five people, there were some number less than five black republicans? Man are you completely retarded. How do you dress yourself in the morning? Do you dress yourself in the morning? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/332 "2011-10-01T23:07:48Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > None of those are numbers, stupid. You made a specific claim of “ever increasing numbers.” I want you to tell me how many, not to list off 5 people. Or are you claiming that prior to those five people, there were some number less than five black republicans? Considering how few blacks put up with the bullshit from the idiot wing of the Republican party, five might well be “increasing numbers” over the numbers they had in Starving’s beloved good ol’ days. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/333 "2011-10-01T23:32:45Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Considering how few blacks put up with the bullshit from the idiot wing of the Republican party, five might well be “increasing numbers” over the numbers they had in Starving’s beloved good ol’ days. You may be right. An alternative explanation is that Starving cannot count. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/334 "2011-10-02T01:09:14Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The success of blacks in the Republican party depends upon their coming to the realiazation that they are welcome after all. The more who run, the more who will be elected. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > As for the first, I’d mention J.C. Watts, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, the recent Republican party head whose name unfortunately escapes me at the moment, Rep. West of Florida, and of course Herman Cain. I’m sure a Google search would turn up many more but the ones I mentioned are the ones who come most readily to mind. Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, and Herman Cain haven’t been elected to anything. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/335 "2011-10-02T02:18:28Z")
That West fellow was elected. Too bad he’s crazy as a duck on acid. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/336 "2011-10-02T04:19:38Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > As for the first, I’d mention J.C. Watts, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, the recent Republican party head whose name unfortunately escapes me at the moment, Rep. West of Florida, and of course Herman Cain. I’m sure a Google search would turn up many more but the ones I mentioned are the ones who come most readily to mind. Are you referring to Michael Steele? He was one of the dullest knives in the drawer, second to Clarence Thomas, who is not only incompetent but corrupt. Steele brushed up against the drug-addled Limbaugh when Limbaugh accused him of not being fit to lead the Republican Party. Then Steele apologized to Limbaugh when he realized that Limbaugh was the de facto leader of the Republican Party. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael\_Steele](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Steele) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/337 "2011-10-02T10:52:47Z")
Doesn’t matter. Blacks are attaining positions of power in the Republican party. Whether elected or appointed, they’ve been welcomed enthusiastically by an almost all white Republican constituency, which gives the lie to the claim that Republicans are racist. And again, the more that black people see this and enter Republican politics, the more black office holders we’ll have and the more black voters as well. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/338 "2011-10-02T12:21:07Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > Are you referring to Michael Steele? He was one of the dullest knives in the drawer, second to Clarence Thomas, who is not only incompetent but corrupt. But no doubt \*\*Starvy \*\*is sure they were chosen to their offices purely on merit. His party’s need for “front window Negroes” had nothing to do with it, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/339 "2011-10-02T12:24:55Z")
It’s 2011. That’s 150 years after the start of the Civil War. That someone is saying, in essence, “any day now there’ll be more black Republicans” is more of an indictment than a defense. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/340 "2011-10-02T14:13:29Z")
There is an aspect whereby the increase in black Republicans is clearly a good thing. That is, when a man becomes successful and prosperous, it inclines that man more to the view that virtue is rewarded, and that the order of things is as it should be. This is human nature. If you favor equality and justice, you favor the right of any man to make himself into a smug, self-satisfied asshole. And so it goes… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=18)