# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3581 "2015-07-03T21:25:00Z")

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As always, it’s activist judges when you lose and strict constructionists when you win. Someday we’ll ditch the pretense that the court is any less political than the other branches. The Court even has “third way” justices in Roberts and Kennedy.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3582 "2015-07-04T02:48:37Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Damage being done? I’m not following you.

Legislation from the bench. A decision handed down with no basis in law, which had the result of further damaging the 1st and 10th Amendments.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3583 "2015-07-04T02:49:59Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Could you send me a picture of yourself? I want to add it to the Wikipedia entry on “Dunning-Kruger effect”.

Oh, how cute. You made a funny.

Not.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3584 "2015-07-04T02:55:51Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Legislation from the bench. A decision handed down with no basis in law, which had the result of further damaging the 1st and 10th Amendments.

No damage was done. They’re free to practice their religion. They are not free to shove it down the throats of others like God’s Holy Penis.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3585 "2015-07-04T03:03:45Z")

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We tried to get God’s Holy Penis for my prom, but they were already booked.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3586 "2015-07-04T03:08:17Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Legislation from the bench. A decision handed down with no basis in law, which had the result of further damaging the 1st and 10th Amendments.

The basis is in the 14th Amendment…and it strengthens the 10th, by affirming a right reserved to the people. It also strengthens the 1st, a little, by rejecting a notion that was almost purely religious in nature.

Three strikes, you’re outed.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3587 "2015-07-04T03:10:34Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Legislation from the bench. A decision handed down with no basis in law, which had the result of further damaging the 1st and 10th Amendments.

This is just Republican talking points, and not a factual assertion about the law. The Supreme Court interprets the Constitution, and like it or not, many intelligent and educated lawyers and judges interpret it differently.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3588 "2015-07-04T03:18:58Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Legislation from the bench.

Which is pretty much the reason for SCOTUS to exist.

Don’t forget they ruled in favor of gun rights.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3589 "2015-07-04T03:58:33Z")

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I’ve always considered “legislating from the bench” to be making up new laws. To me the best example is granting standing to people who challenge things like Ten Commandments displays. It makes no sense that a taxpayer can’t challenge spending but anyone can decide that a religious display does them substantial harm.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3590 "2015-07-04T04:55:49Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I’ve always considered “legislating from the bench” to be making up new laws. To me the best example is granting standing to people who challenge things like Ten Commandments displays. It makes no sense that a taxpayer can’t challenge spending but anyone can decide that a religious display does them substantial harm.

There is nothing in the Constitution that gives us the right to challenge spending.

There is something in the Constitution about the state establishing a religion.

It makes plenty of sense.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3591 "2015-07-04T05:39:59Z")

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Which has nothing to do with the issue of standing. Lots of things are unconstitutional or illegal, but not just anyone can sue to stop it. Except, it seems, religious symbols.

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**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3592 "2015-07-04T06:21:23Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Which has nothing to do with the issue of standing. Lots of things are unconstitutional or illegal, but not just anyone can sue to stop it. Except, it seems, religious symbols.

If religious organizations can decide arbitrarily what they find offensive, the rest of us surely should be able to get redress by being offended by those symbols.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3593 "2015-07-04T06:37:38Z")

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Surprised no one has mentioned George Takei.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3594 "2015-07-04T07:28:27Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Surprised no one has mentioned George Takei.

[Already done](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18487175&postcount=3571).  
At least he apologized somewhat.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3595 "2015-07-04T19:23:33Z")

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This thread is primarily Clothy doddering around with imbecile, ignorant anger, and Adaher yipping like a Chihuahua with a long strand of hair caked with nuggets of shit dangling from his ass.

I mean, I still dig it. Don’t think I don’t like seeing those two dance.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3596 "2015-07-04T19:27:19Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> This thread is primarily Clothy doddering around with imbecile, ignorant anger, and Adaher yipping like a Chihuahua with a long strand of hair caked with nuggets of shit dangling from his ass.
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> I mean, I still dig it. Don’t think I don’t like seeing those two dance.

Actually, it’s only 8.74% between the two of them. And **adaher** leads 310-111.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3597 "2015-07-04T20:24:13Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Actually, it’s only 8.74% between the two of them. And **adaher** leads 310-111.

How do you get a count like that?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3598 "2015-07-04T20:50:07Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> How do you get a count like that?

_[Who Posted?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=605448)_ and a little math.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3599 "2015-07-05T02:39:20Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> … and Adaher yipping like a Chihuahua with a long strand of hair caked with nuggets of shit dangling from his ass.

adaberries?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2015, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3600 "2015-07-06T09:14:01Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Oh, how cute. You made a funny.
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> Not.

And yet my “funny” managed to have a greater degree of factual accuracy than anything you’ve posted thus far.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Sigh. That’s the problem. I do have the ability. Apparently, I am one of very few people on this board who does have that ability.

> [@Wikipedia](#):
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> The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.

QED.

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