# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 185
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3681 "2015-07-16T21:28:01Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > No, disagreeing that questioning Emperor Obama’s Iran policy = racism gets you thrown out of the Salon-reading progressives club. See, because “Salon-reading progressives” do a thing that you seem to struggle with: they collect the words together into thoughts and tie the thoughts together into meanings. This is the “reading” part, which seems to elude you, to wit, > [@](#): > > … _Garrett later explained that he was merely “trying to strike a nerve” and “be provocative” with the president …_ That is from the article. Major Garrett himself admitted that he was just poking at your “Emperor”. There is no equivalence here to “tough questions = racism”, nor does anyone who is not a RW drool-machine see one. Bill Maher was simply trying to provoke the right in the same way that Garrett was ineptly trying to provoke Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3682 "2015-07-16T21:52:50Z")
Poking at power is what the media is \*supposed \*to do. I guess since it’s been over six years since they ran anything but “Obama puts my drawing of him on the fridge and gives it an A+” stories, you’ve actually forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3683 "2015-07-16T22:05:54Z")
Not up on this whole “hostages” thing. What concessions has Iran demanded for the hostages? Should the US be willing to go to war if the hostages are not released? Should the US be willing to _risk_ war if they are not released? And finally, should the US be willing to cancel the result of a difficult negotiation to avoid war if the hostages are not released? And while you’re about it, howzabout a definition of hostage? Is a hostage anyone detained in a foreign country? Must there be some sort of “ransom note”, some condition to be met to secure their release or their safety? Has Iran made any such demand? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3684 "2015-07-16T22:07:12Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > **Haberdash** , I assume you are an intelligent person; Still feeling pretty good about those odds? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3685 "2015-07-16T22:09:02Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > Poking at power is what the media is \*supposed \*to do… Oh, OK. Does that include Helen Thomas who “…made incoherent stump speeches about Iraq that didn’t even pretend to be questions…”? ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3686 "2015-07-16T22:12:28Z")
I didn’t say I disagreed with her, I just said that she did it to point out the contrasting responses. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3687 "2015-07-16T22:20:08Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > I didn’t say I disagreed with her, I just said that she did it to point out the contrasting responses. Oh, so when a reporter pokes a Republican, it’s an incoherent stump speech, but when a reporter pokes a Democrat, it’s an incisive exercise of the First Amendment? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3688 "2015-07-16T22:25:11Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > Poking at power is what the media is \*supposed \*to do. Incisive questioning is their job. Trolling for video bites is not. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3689 "2015-07-16T22:27:43Z")
If she was incoherent, how do you know what she was pointing out? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3690 "2015-07-16T22:30:37Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > If she was incoherent, how do you know what she was pointing out? They speak the same language. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3691 "2015-07-16T23:00:27Z")
I don’t disagree with opposition to the Iraq War, or the hijacking of the press conference to talk about the Iraq War. I can hold that position and also think that the particular content of Helen Thomas’s rambles was basically nonsense and didn’t help anything. Furthermore, the point of bringing up the incident was not to discuss who was wrong or right about Iraq, but to give an example of someone doing a similar thing to Bush to what was done to Obama yesterday and point out the disparate reactions. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3692 "2015-07-16T23:23:10Z")
In other words, you got nothing but your ass handed to you and are back-pedaling faster than a circus clown. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3693 "2015-07-16T23:26:42Z")
Yup, you sure showed me that you consider it possible and desirable to criticize Obama. Good job keeping the bubble intact, as usual. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3694 "2015-07-16T23:31:13Z")
I don’t read Salon. I think I should start, though, because if that lunatic Haberdash thinks it is a mockworthy read, it must be worth reading. By the way: has anyone posted a Stupid Liberal Idea lately? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3695 "2015-07-16T23:37:07Z")
What exactly are the “disparate” reactions? Helen Thomas lost her job. How is this guy latest suffering? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3696 "2015-07-16T23:37:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > What exactly are the “disparate” reactions? Helen Thomas lost her job. How is this guy latest suffering? Obama spoke to him sharply. You know how sensitive Faux Snooze “journalists” are… ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3697 "2015-07-16T23:38:47Z")
I just want to know why Haberdash hasn’t addressed the rumors that he rapes his dog every night. I mean, he could set this to rest immediately, with a single answer, but for some reason, he keeps avoiding the issue. What is Haberdash hiding? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3698 "2015-07-16T23:51:06Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Obama spoke to him sharply. You know how sensitive Faux Snooze “journalists” are… Er, CBS, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3699 "2015-07-17T00:03:14Z")
But Major Garrett used to be a FOXista. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3700 "2015-07-17T00:08:02Z")
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