# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 190
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3781 "2015-07-17T22:22:39Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > … **septimus** is vocalizing the unspoken id of the rest of the Obamadrones in the thread by explicitly stating that it “doesn’t matter” how or why you criticize Obama, it’s simply unacceptable to do so. I can’t find where **septimus** has explicitly stated that it doesn’t matter how or why you criticize Obama, it’s simply unacceptable to do so. Help me out? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3782 "2015-07-17T22:26:14Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > There seems to be some dissent in the ranks – **septimus** is vocalizing the unspoken id of the rest of the Obamadrones in the thread by explicitly stating that it “doesn’t matter” how or why you criticize Obama, it’s simply unacceptable to do so. Maybe you two should get together for a rousing game of Who’s The Racist? I don’t believe **septimus** was using “you” in the general sense, but rather in the specific. That is to say, he wasn’t saying that it doesn’t matter why _anyone_ hates Obama. He’s saying it doesn’t matter why you, specifically, the person who goes by the name **Haberdash** on this board, hates Obama. And the reason it doesn’t matter is that you’re a deeply defective human being. You combine stupid, crazy, and angry in your own special way that pretty much automatically invalidates anything you have to say, on any subject. You’ve been in some of the gay rights threads in GD lately, taking a pro-SSM stance. But it doesn’t matter, because you’re still a crazy, angry idiot, even when your erratic orbit occasionally lines up with an otherwise rational position. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3783 "2015-07-17T22:29:12Z")
Invective isn’t an argument. Hey **Haberdash** , I dare you to pull this shit in GD. You think you have an point to make, go ahead and trot it out where you need to bring a little more to the table than a litany of insults. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3784 "2015-07-17T22:38:20Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And the reason it doesn’t matter is that you’re a deeply defective human being. You combine stupid, crazy, and angry in your own special way that pretty much automatically invalidates anything you have to say, on any subject. You’ve been in some of the gay rights threads in GD lately, taking a pro-SSM stance. But it doesn’t matter, because you’re still a crazy, angry idiot, even when your erratic orbit occasionally lines up with an otherwise rational position. Won’t even accept the support of someone who AGREES with you if they are tainted by questioning Obama on an irrelevant issue. Very good – any backsliding from the True Path could infect you with heresy. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3785 "2015-07-17T22:39:12Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > So again we come to the typical Obama-brained response where, after huffing and puffing about how they definitely don’t write off any and all criticism of Obama as racist, they just can’t resist adding in “this person who made no reference to race and asked a question about an issue that has no relevance to black-white relations in America is, definitionally, a racist, because he asked Obama a question.” You just can’t help yourselves. It is a more effective troll if you call him Obummer. We hate that. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3786 "2015-07-17T22:41:49Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It is a more effective troll if you call him Obummer. We hate that. 0bama is another good one. The extra subtlety is a nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3787 "2015-07-17T22:47:01Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > 0bama is another good one. The extra subtlety is a nice touch. Subtlety? I think peacocks have colorful feathers and should show them. This deserves the full B Hussein 0baMao treatment. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3788 "2015-07-17T23:00:51Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > Won’t even accept the support of someone who AGREES with you if they are tainted by questioning Obama on an irrelevant issue. Very good – any backsliding from the True Path could infect you with heresy. Thank you for perfectly demonstrating my point. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3789 "2015-07-17T23:43:00Z")
At some point this becomes abuse of the differently-abled, you guy know. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3790 "2015-07-18T00:12:45Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I blame Obama. Racist. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3791 "2015-07-18T00:58:35Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > … people who have to defend the Iran capitulation because taking talking points from Gawker … Hold on. I thought it was Salon. (Note to self: Check out Gawker, too.) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3792 "2015-07-18T01:10:44Z")
I wonder if **Haberdash** ’s last name is Dunning or Kruger. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3793 "2015-07-18T01:11:42Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I wonder if **Haberdash** ’s last name is Dunning or Kruger. Hyphenated. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3794 "2015-07-18T01:23:03Z")
What, you mean like “Dunning-Asshole” or “Dipshit-Kruger?” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3795 "2015-07-18T01:58:54Z")
So, you’re saying he’s a racist? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3796 "2015-07-18T02:27:50Z")
Isn’t that the only reason anyone would possibly oppose the Dear Leader on anything? At least that’s what they said at the [del]brainwashing[/del] orientation. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3797 "2015-07-18T02:48:20Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > But it “doesn’t matter” how he phrased the question. All criticism of Obama is racist. Even if the Obamazombies hadn’t come out and explicitly said this above, we’d know it from their rhetoric of the past seven years – it’s not like you would ever approve of someone just saying “I don’t think the way Obama is handling the prisoner situation is ideal,” either. All criticism of Obama is racist. Preach, oh Lord! Spray your wisdom upon us! Smite the false deity Obama! ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3798 "2015-07-18T05:54:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > . . . Spray your wisdom upon us! . . . They make movies where that happens. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3799 "2015-07-18T07:53:34Z")
Other Dopers here are content to laugh at the idiot. But I’ll extend him the courtesy of giving him one last chance to perceive his idiocy clearly: > [@Haberdash](#): > > But it “doesn’t matter” how he phrased the question. All criticism of Obama is racist. Even if the Obamazombies hadn’t come out and explicitly said this above, we’d know it from their rhetoric of the past seven years – it’s not like you would ever approve of someone just saying “I don’t think the way Obama is handling the prisoner situation is ideal,” either. All criticism of Obama is racist. The reporter phrases his “question” in a singularly nasty and disrespectful way, and gets called on it. You defend the reporter because you assert that _even if he had phrased the question respectfully_ he’d have gotten the same criticism. (If that’s your point, why didn’t you link to criticism of a _respectful_ question?) Is this a correct summary? Can you grasp the cognitive dissonance present in your claim, or do you need it spelled out? … Or are you now going to focus on “respect/disrespect”, that by asking that Obama be treated with a fraction of the respect given other Presidents we put him on a pedestal as God-King? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3800 "2015-07-18T08:00:37Z")
So what? the President’s a big boy, he can handle it. He knew what he was conceding to when he got involved in these talks, and to his credit he doesn’t mind answering for what he gave up to get the deal he wanted. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=189) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=191)