# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 195
**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3881 "2015-08-05T20:30:17Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > [Yahoo is part of the Yahoo family of brands](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne-sorry-remarks-made-081254774.html#xnxoRLo) What a viscerally disgusting person. No one that ugly should have any sort of public facing job. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3882 "2015-08-05T20:34:46Z")
In addition to her being a minor celebrity (rather than someone in power), is she even a liberal? She’s British, right? Is she even active in American politics? Wiki describes her activism and charity work [thus:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Osbourne#Activism_and_charity_work) > [@Wikipedia](#): > > Osbourne appeared at an HIV charity benefit in February 2007, a cause she revealed stemmed from the HIV positive status of her cousin Terry Longden, of the reality show The Salon.[42][43] > > On 1 April 2010, Osbourne (along with her mother Sharon) joined Cyndi Lauper in the launch of her Give a Damn campaign to bring a wider awareness of discrimination of the LGBT community as part of her True Colours Fund. The campaign is to bring straight people to stand up with the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender community and stop the discrimination. Other names included in the campaign are Whoopi Goldberg, Jason Mraz, Elton John, Judith Light, Cynthia Nixon, Kim Kardashian, Anna Paquin and Clay Aiken. > > In December 2010, she appeared on the ITV gameshow The Cube where she took away £20,000 for The Prince’s Trust. > > In the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, Osbourne joined hands with the Salvation Army in Staten Island, NY during their recovery efforts in November 2012.[44] I scanned her Twitter feed (BTW, does Twitter make sense to everyone but me? Christ, it’s impossible to read), and I see a lot of vapid crap, mostly links to other vapid crap on Instagram, but not much politics. Has she revealed her liberal views elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3883 "2015-08-05T20:35:58Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Do we know Kelly Osborne’s a liberal? Ether way it’s an offensive stupid thing to say. Well, she apologized, so she probably is a liberal. A conservative would have doubled-down. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3884 "2015-08-05T20:53:09Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I guess we can throw in Kelly Osbourne’s dumb The View statement on Latinos and cleaning toilets? > > That’s the danger of reciting other people’s talking points rather than using your own brain. “Immigrants do a lot of dirty jobs Americans won’t do” sounds a lot better than “Who will clean our toilets?” although the spirit behind those statements is the same. No, we can’t. It’s true that a lot of Latinos clean toilets and do other menial tasks. Nobody is saying that’s all that Latinos do. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3885 "2015-08-05T21:07:49Z")
Liberals say a lot of dumb things, because you don’t have to be all that smart to be liberal. A conservative, however, has to be creative and flexible to keep all the inner contradictions from clanging into each other or smart enough to explain them away. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3886 "2015-08-05T21:29:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Liberals say a lot of dumb things, because you don’t have to be all that smart to be liberal. A conservative, however, has to be creative and flexible to keep all the inner contradictions from clanging into each other or **smart enough to explain them away.** Or a stupid enough constituency to accept the lame-assed revisions. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3887 "2015-08-05T21:35:27Z")
A fair point, but keep in mind, they only need one fairly clever guy to fashion the talking points and spread them around, then all they have to do is memorize and repeat. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3888 "2015-08-05T21:42:27Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Do we know Kelly Osborne’s a liberal? Ether way it’s an offensive stupid thing to say. It’s very possible she’s not. More likely she is on social issues but maybe not; metal fans and musicians are a lot more conservative than maybe you might think. (Says the liberal metalhead.) ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3889 "2015-10-05T17:05:42Z")
Well, Hillary opened her yap and spewed stupidity yet again. > [@](#): > > But Clinton also wants to use the UCC attack as an opportunity to change the law so that shooting victims and their families can sue gun makers into oblivion. And even though Duke University researcher Chris Conover has demonstrated that owning a car is “80 percent” more dangerous than owning a gun–as relates to the lives of others–Clinton said nothing about allowing crash victims and their families to sue Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota, or Mercedes. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3890 "2015-10-05T17:11:06Z")
Car owners sue carmakers all the time. Maybe you heard about [this one recently](http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2015/09/17/gm-to-pay-575m-to-settle-ignition-switch-lawsuits)? > [@](#): > > General Motors will pay $575 million to settle hundreds of civil lawsuits filed against the company over faulty small-car ignition switches, including the bulk of pending wrongful death and injury cases. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3891 "2015-10-05T17:12:11Z")
Actually, your cite is pretty stupid, given that guns arent’ designed for the express purpose of killing, so it’s apples and oranges. Mind sourcing the cite for us? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3892 "2015-10-05T17:13:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, Hillary opened her yap and spewed stupidity yet again. According to my Google-monkey, your quote echos that esteemed source of truth and fact, _Breitbart News._ > **[Hillary Clinton Pushes Change Allowing Shooting Victims To Sue Gun Makers In...](https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/10/05/hillary-clinton-pushes-change-allowing-shooting-victims-sue-gun-makers-wake-oregon-attack/)** > > Hillary Clinton Pushes Change Allowing Shooting Victims To Sue Gun Makers In Wake Of Oregon Attack Don’t blame you for being ashamed to link your source. Still, if I hadn’t checked, I wouldn’t know about **World’s First Lesbian Bishop Calls for Church to Remove Crosses, to Install Muslim Prayer Space** So, thanks for _that_! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3893 "2015-10-05T17:26:14Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Well, Hillary opened her yap and spewed stupidity yet again. Car makers can be sued, and are sued, sometimes. Sometimes they lose. People are already allowed to sue car companies. Did you really not know this? And the journalist that wrote your link-free quote is an idiot and should be ashamed for not knowing this (or alternately writing a deceptive article). Pathetic journalism, whoever you are. Hopefully you, **Clothahump** , can learn from this, and have higher standards for the journalists you read. Maybe you should bone up on law, too, before making claims about what’s “stupid” regarding what is legally allowed in terms of lawsuits. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3894 "2015-10-05T17:26:40Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Well, Hillary opened her yap and spewed stupidity yet again. No…now that we know what your source is, _you_ just did. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3895 "2015-10-05T17:28:16Z")
“Clinton said nothing about allowing crash victims and their families to sue Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota, or Mercedes.” They already can, you know. They can sue pool manufacturers, too. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3896 "2015-10-05T17:28:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No…now that we know what your source is, _you_ just did. Yeah, but this SLIOTD stuff is _hard_! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3897 "2015-10-05T19:22:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > “Clinton said nothing about allowing crash victims and their families to sue Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota, or Mercedes.” > > They already can, you know. Yeah, they can if there’s a design flaw or the car malfunctions in some way. I’ve never heard of anyone suing a car company simply because one of their cars was involved in a crash that killed someone. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3898 "2015-10-05T19:29:27Z")
No car is \*designed \*to kill people. The manufacturers go to great lengths to try to prevent that, in fact. So the [“unreasonably dangerous”](http://dictionary.findlaw.com/definition/unreasonably-dangerous.html) consideration in product liability law doesn’t really apply. Only actual legislation excludes guns from that. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3899 "2015-10-05T19:59:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No car is \*designed \*to kill people. 1972 Pinto? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/3900 "2015-10-05T20:06:49Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No car is \*designed \*to kill people. The manufacturers go to great lengths to try to prevent that, in fact. So the [“unreasonably dangerous”](http://dictionary.findlaw.com/definition/unreasonably-dangerous.html) consideration in product liability law doesn’t really apply. Only actual legislation excludes guns from that. Guns aren’t designed to kill people either. They’re designed to deliver bullets. Human beings determine which targets those bullets hit. Most often the the targets are inanimate objects or animals. Rarely are the targets people, and when they are, it’s usually a result of criminal misuse. I don’t know of any occasion where manufacturers have been held liable for the criminal misuse of their product. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=194) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=196)