# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 215
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4281 "2015-12-18T02:34:15Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > Didn’t Hillary’s camp during the 2008 election kick off the ideal of birtherism? [RationalWiki](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Obama_citizenship_denial) > [@](#): > > The original rumors are attributed to Hillary Clinton supporters, usually southern Democrats, most notably People United Means Action. [Birtherism: Where it all began](http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563) [Was Hillary Clinton the Original ‘Birther’?](http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/) > [@](#): > > Two Republican presidential candidates claim the so-called “birther” movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. While it’s true that some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, there is no evidence that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4282 "2015-12-19T16:22:39Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [RationalWiki](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Obama_citizenship_denial) > > [Birtherism: Where it all began](http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563) > [Was Hillary Clinton the Original ‘Birther’?](http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/) Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4283 "2015-12-19T19:57:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’ll admit I didn’t read all the way through. > Hopefully, it’s a trolling attempt that appears to have worked. Grayson is notorious for trolling the GOP. Hit the YouTubes for when he explained the Republican healthcare plan on the floor of Congress. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4284 "2015-12-19T20:00:04Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > Didn’t Hillary’s camp during the 2008 election kick off the ideal of birtherism? No. No. > **[Was Hillary Clinton the Original 'Birther'? - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/)** > > Two Republican presidential candidates claim the so-called "birther" movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. Some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, but there is no evidence Clinton or her campaign had anything to do... ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4285 "2015-12-20T18:14:05Z")
People saying Hillary started birtherism remind me of the folks that say Al Gore started Willie Horton. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4286 "2015-12-20T19:00:11Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Wow, someone says something true, accurate, and correct, and **adaher** pops a blood vessel. Says a lot about him. Unfair response. He admitted it was accurate. He’s saying it’s not in Sanchez’s self-interest, that’s all (that’s debatable but whatever). ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4287 "2015-12-20T19:01:36Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > Didn’t Hillary’s camp during the 2008 election kick off the ideal of birtherism? 1. Embrace stupid idea. 2. When stupid idea is debunked, continue to embrace it. 3. When embracing stupid idea is no longer tenable, blame stupid idea on someone else. 4. Move on to new stupid idea. The Republican thought cycle. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4288 "2015-12-20T19:07:53Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > People saying Hillary started birtherism remind me of the folks that say Al Gore started Willie Horton. If that’s true I would vote for him just because I love donuts that much. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4289 "2015-12-21T03:36:13Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Unfair response. He admitted it was accurate. He’s saying it’s not in Sanchez’s self-interest, that’s all (that’s debatable but whatever). I THINK it’s accurate. Others in this thread have disputed its accuracy and wonder where she heard these figures from(5-20%), and she can’t actually back her assertion up. But thanks for the defense, since I am not blaming her for saying something untrue or ignorant, since she IS on the homeland security committee and her briefings are probably where she got those figures. But it was politically tone deaf for someone running in a Democratic Senate primary. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4290 "2015-12-21T16:21:26Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > 1. Embrace stupid idea. > 2. When stupid idea is debunked, continue to embrace it. > 3. When embracing stupid idea is no longer tenable, blame stupid idea on someone else. > 4. Move on to new stupid idea. > > The Republican thought cycle. Wrong party. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4291 "2015-12-21T16:29:24Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Some things are so obviously just talking shit that it’s not even really stupid. Only things people might actually mean should count. ACLU lady gets a pass on my authority. The era of the metaphor is dead. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4292 "2015-12-21T16:30:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The Democratic Party gets infected with [birtherism.](http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/25/alan-grayson-threatens-lawsuit-on-citizenship-grounds-if-ted-cruz-is-the-gop-nominee/) He’s just calling out hypocrisy. This is not “birtherism” because Cruz actually was born in Canada and doesn’t dispute it. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4293 "2015-12-21T16:31:53Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wrong party. Examples of this cycle happening in the other party are eagerly anticipated. Got some? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4294 "2015-12-21T16:45:15Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wrong party. You’re right, that’s more of a Tea Party thought process. They’re like the ugly red-headed stepchildren of the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4295 "2015-12-21T16:47:29Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > You’re right, that’s more of a Tea Party thought process. They’re like the ugly red-headed stepchildren of the GOP. I’ll accept that amendment. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4296 "2015-12-21T20:27:57Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wrong party. Derp. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4297 "2015-12-21T20:35:38Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wrong party. Or, you’re a fucking imbecile who is wrong about nearly everything because he gulps down, with great gusto, the misinformation and nonsense RW media is selling. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4298 "2015-12-21T20:45:22Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Or, you’re a fucking imbecile who is wrong about nearly everything because he gulps down, with great gusto, the misinformation and nonsense RW media is selling. I’m of the opinion that **Clothy** has trouble spelling his name correctly. If you were to give him and a doorknob IQ tests, my money would be on the doorknob. Or, as my late father used to say, “that idiot couldn’t spell ‘cat’ if you spotted him the C and the A.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4299 "2015-12-22T04:07:30Z")
You guys are being pretty rough on him. Its time for someone to say something nice about **Clothy**. Really is. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4300 "2015-12-22T04:27:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You guys are being pretty rough on him. Its time for someone to say something nice about **Clothy**. Really is. Sometimes, he goes for almost a week without posting. That’s the best I got. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=214) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=216)