# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 220
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4381 "2015-12-29T00:04:15Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, it’s not. Down the hall, on the left. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4382 "2015-12-29T00:25:30Z")
Does anyone really not know that [depicting blacks as monkeys](http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/) has been done since the 1800’s to dehumanize\* them? Please, D’Anconian and adaher and anyone else, do read up. Preferably _before_ you post on a subject. \*Or, worse, PRE-humanize them. Seems to me that showing them to be a step between apes and humans lets whites feel better about treating them as inferiors. I mean, it’s science/God’s will/natural law… ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4383 "2015-12-29T01:09:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Given demographic trends, liberals classifying a large percentage of Latinos as “white” can only help Republicans. So, this and your previous statement make clear that you don’t classify Cruz specifically or Latinos/Latinas as “white”. Please, what **is** your definition of “white”? I think that’s a pretty simple question, so I don’t understand why you are afraid to answer it. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4384 "2015-12-29T01:15:16Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Shut the fuck up, you fucking racist Whatever you say. Trolling the board since 2001, according to your join date. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4385 "2015-12-29T01:23:41Z")
What the fuck did I say that was racist? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4386 "2015-12-29T02:01:50Z")
Denying context. It’s like saying, “The law prohibits both rich and poor from sleeping under bridges,” and then claiming that your law against sleeping under bridges doesn’t discriminate against poor people. No one is convinced by such sophistry. This was seen in the Voter ID farrago, where the defense was, “Since everyone will have to prove their ID, it affects everyone equally” – and then they close registration offices in majority-black counties. That sort of gives away the game. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4387 "2015-12-29T02:05:47Z")
What did I say that was racist? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4388 "2015-12-29T02:10:35Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What did I say that was racist? This: > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What the fuck did I say that was racist? Racists are never able to recognize when they are being racist. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4389 "2015-12-29T02:12:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > This: > > Racists are never able to recognize when they are being racist. Stop trolling, please. Cite a racist comment that I made, or STFU. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4390 "2015-12-29T02:17:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s wrong to call anyone’s kids monkeys, but it’s still different for Obama vs Cruz. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, it’s not. Only the truly ignorant will claim to be unaware of the past history of comparing African-Americans to apes/monkeys. A racist will pretend to be ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4391 "2015-12-29T02:56:21Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Stop trolling, please. > > Cite a racist comment that I made, or STFU. Okay. How about this: > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, it’s not. You stated, in no uncertain terms, that it was perfectly okay to refer to black people as monkeys. You’ve been on this board and in political threads for years. Enough time and topics to be well aware of the fact that “monkey” has had a racist component for well over a century. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4392 "2015-12-29T03:04:39Z")
So, once again, no cite that I made a racist comment. I thought that being a jerk was against the rules, here. Making up shit about other posters should qualify. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4393 "2015-12-29T03:18:07Z")
**iiAndyiii** pointed out that it was not right to refer to the children of Obama and Cruz as monkeys, given the racist connotation of the word through the years. You said that, even with the racist connotation of the word, it’s perfectly okay to refer to black children as monkeys. You stated that black children should certainly be able to be called names, particularly racist ones. You said that [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18971742&postcount=4376). The exact language was > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by iiandyiii > It’s wrong to call anyone’s kids monkeys, but it’s still different for Obama vs Cruz. > No, it’s not. By saying it’s not okay to not call black kids monkeys, you are giving tacit approval of people using racial slurs to refer to black children. And, by condoning the behavior, you are, in act, being racist. No one is making up shit about you. They’re pointing out that you are okay with racial slurs being used against children. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4394 "2015-12-29T03:20:29Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > So, once again, no cite that I made a racist comment. > > I thought that being a jerk was against the rules, here. Making up shit about other posters should qualify. His denial is his cite. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4395 "2015-12-29T06:01:20Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > You said that, even with the racist connotation of the word, it’s perfectly okay to refer to black children as monkeys. > > You stated that black children should certainly be able to be called names, particularly racist ones. No, I didn’t, you fat fucking liar. I disagree with Andy’s assertion that it’s worse to call Obama’s kids names instead of Cruz’s. Calling anyone’s kids names is bad. You and Andy just don’t like Cruz and it’s coloring your perception. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4396 "2015-12-29T06:05:51Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, I didn’t, you fat fucking liar. I disagree with Andy’s assertion that it’s worse to call Obama’s kids names instead of Cruz’s. Calling anyone’s kids names is bad. Except that wasn’t the assertion. The assertion was a \* specific \* name that was being used. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4397 "2015-12-29T06:23:23Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Except that wasn’t the assertion. The assertion was a \* specific \* name that was being used. Except that it’s not worse, it’s just as bad. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4398 "2015-12-29T07:15:52Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, I didn’t, you fat fucking liar. I disagree with Andy’s assertion that it’s worse to call Obama’s kids names instead of Cruz’s. Calling anyone’s kids names is bad. > > You and Andy just don’t like Cruz and it’s coloring your perception. I don’t believe that I have ever actually expressed an opinion regarding Cruz on this board. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4399 "2015-12-29T14:58:05Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > By saying it’s not okay to not call black kids monkeys, you are giving tacit approval of people using racial slurs to refer to black children. And, by condoning the behavior, you are, in act, being racist. That is one possible interpretation of his words. I don’t think it’s fair to assume that it’s the correct one. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4400 "2015-12-29T15:30:59Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > That is one possible interpretation of his words. I don’t think it’s fair to assume that it’s the correct one. :sigh: I agree. And yet, I support anything that makes **D’Anconia** angry. Dammit, what’s a gal to do? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=219) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=221)