# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 233
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4641 "2016-05-12T19:08:32Z")
Meh. A populists representative has a public tiff with someone who is part of the establishment. When Republicans had that happen, it was the Tea Party and they brought actual governance to a complete stop. Let me know when that happens on the Democratic side comma and I’ll call it stupid. Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4642 "2016-05-12T19:51:56Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The protesters in California. Blocking traffic and trying to get in the hotel to stop Trump from speaking. > > 1. Protest all you want, you have no right to stop another from speaking. > 2. Your antics piss off possible supporters. > 3. You play into and prove correct the Right’s rhetoric. > Get back on the sidewalks, scream and wave your signs all you want, respect the rights you expect others to respect toward you. “But- but- we’re RIGHT! And they’re evil and wrong! We’re being victimized by their hate speech!” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4643 "2016-05-13T00:26:11Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Meh. A populists representative has a public tiff with someone who is part of the establishment. > > When Republicans had that happen, it was the Tea Party and they brought actual governance to a complete stop. > > Let me know when that happens on the Democratic side comma and I’ll call it stupid. > > Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk That’s because as Grayson points out, the Democratic PArty is firmly controlled by its establishment. If guys like Alan Grayson are allowed to win primaries, that won’t last long. It’s ironic that the sanity of a party is now judged by how far removed from the will of their voters they are. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4644 "2016-05-13T01:16:41Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s because as Grayson points out, the Democratic PArty is firmly controlled by its establishment. If guys like Alan Grayson are allowed to win primaries, that won’t last long. Considering that [Grayson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Grayson) was first elected a US Representative in 2008, that ship has sailed. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4645 "2016-05-13T03:13:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > . . . It’s ironic that the sanity of a party is now judged by how far removed from the will of their voters they are. No: the sanity of the two parties is judged by how far removed they are from the will of their most extreme voters, across the board. A party that is neither too left-leaning nor too right-leaning will have the maximum possible sanity. Keep your eye upon the doughnut, not upon the hole. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4646 "2016-05-13T03:47:08Z")
When did Harry Reid become a liberal? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4647 "2016-05-13T13:40:51Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > When did Harry Reid become a liberal? Ever since “liberal” became Right-Wing Synonym for “the other guy.” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4648 "2016-05-17T13:08:59Z")
The Wall Street Journal ran a story about [Hillary Clinton’s $100,000-a-head fundraisers](http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/05/13/hillary-clinton-hosts-100000-a-head-fundraisers/), and this caught my eye: > [@](#): > > The second Thursday event was at the home of Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent New York businesswoman and supporter of Mrs. Clinton and Democratic candidates. This is the same Lynn Forester de Rothschild who, butthurt when Obama beat Clinton in 2008, became the public face of the [PUMA movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_United_Means_Action) and said some [very incendiary things](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/hillary-clinton-lady-lynn-forester-de-rothschild-barack-obama) about President Obama: > [@](#): > > De Rothschild claimed that Obama would ruin the country and went so far as to [endorse](http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/18/nation/na-trailrothschild18) Sen. John McCain in the general election that year. “What [Obama] offers may be, in substance and in spirit, a radical departure from the principles of the American Dream that has defined our nation over the last two centuries,” she [wrote](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lady-lynn-forester-de-rothschild/barack-obamas-america_b_139762.html) in an op-ed. Since then, de Rothschild has ruthlessly attacked the president, calling him a loser, claiming he’s out to destroy the American dream, and arguing that his success has more to do with his race than his actions. She never even came around after he won as she supported Jon Huntsman in 2012. She is a horrible, horrible person, and Hillary seems to think that having her raise money for her is worth the price of all the Sanders supporters viewing this as more grist for the mill and even the Obama supporters who recall Rothschild’s remarks against him and the [acrimony between Obama and Clinton](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/02/obama_s_supporters_may_have_forgotten_how_much_they_despised_hillary_clinton.html) in 2008. At a time when the Democratic party needs to be uniting, Hillary runs to one of the biggest dividers you’re likely to find, all because she happens to be a billionaire with her wallet open. Not smart, Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4649 "2016-05-17T14:18:00Z")
I’m assuming this idiot is liberal: [A gay Texas pastor who sued Whole Foods alleging that a cake he bought from the grocer had an anti-gay slur written on it in icing has dropped his lawsuit.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/05/16/gay-pastor-admits-he-faked-homophobic-slur-on-whole-foods-cake/)…because he made the whole thing up in the hopes of winning enough money in the suit to pay off his student loan debts. Of all the places to falsely accuse of writing “Fag” on your cake, this guy picked left-of-the-left **Whole Foods**? Seriously, dude, that’s just sad. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4650 "2016-05-17T17:56:42Z")
I see too many of these faker stories, although usually it’s college campuses. If this kind of hateful behavior is so common, you shouldn’t need to fake incidents. Isn’t Whole Foods’ management libertarian? I recall a kerfuffle over the CEO’s support for the Tea Party a few years back. He might have targeted Whole Foods over that assumption. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4651 "2016-05-17T17:58:20Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > The Wall Street Journal ran a story about [Hillary Clinton’s $100,000-a-head fundraisers](http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/05/13/hillary-clinton-hosts-100000-a-head-fundraisers/), and this caught my eye:This is the same Lynn Forester de Rothschild who, butthurt when Obama beat Clinton in 2008, became the public face of the [PUMA movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_United_Means_Action) and said some [very incendiary things](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/hillary-clinton-lady-lynn-forester-de-rothschild-barack-obama) about President Obama:She never even came around after he won as she supported Jon Huntsman in 2012. > > She is a horrible, horrible person, and Hillary seems to think that having her raise money for her is worth the price of all the Sanders supporters viewing this as more grist for the mill and even the Obama supporters who recall Rothschild’s remarks against him and the [acrimony between Obama and Clinton](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/02/obama_s_supporters_may_have_forgotten_how_much_they_despised_hillary_clinton.html) in 2008. > > At a time when the Democratic party needs to be uniting, Hillary runs to one of the biggest dividers you’re likely to find, all because she happens to be a billionaire with her wallet open. > > Not smart, Hillary. If everything Clinton ever said about Obama is forgiven, then why not her fundraisers? Is it the actual endorsement of Republicans that puts her beyond the pale? I thought the Clinton Doctrine was that the only thing that matters is someone’s position right now, and right now Rothschild is a supporter of the Democratic nominee. So she’s a good person now. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4652 "2016-05-17T18:07:00Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > If everything Clinton ever said about Obama is forgiven, then why not her fundraisers? Is it the actual endorsement of Republicans that puts her beyond the pale? I thought the Clinton Doctrine was that the only thing that matters is someone’s position right now, and right now Rothschild is a supporter of the Democratic nominee. So she’s a good person now. I think it’s shitty (based on what I recall from Rothschild), unless she’s changed her views. I’m certainly fine with criticizing Hillary for it, though it’s not going to change my vote. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4653 "2016-05-17T18:13:00Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > **I see too many of these faker stories, although usually it’s college campuses. If this kind of hateful behavior is so common, you shouldn’t need to fake incidents.** > > Isn’t Whole Foods’ management libertarian? I recall a kerfuffle over the CEO’s support for the Tea Party a few years back. He might have targeted Whole Foods over that assumption. [You’re right, they shouldn’t.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anti-lgbt-activists-testing-target-sending-men-womens-rooms) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4654 "2016-05-17T18:39:51Z")
That one was in the other thread, and yes, it’s incredibly stupid and actually sets their cause back. If there is truly going to be a rash of attacks on females, just let it happen and say you told us so. You don’t need to create problems where there aren’t any yet. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4655 "2016-05-17T19:02:42Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I see too many of these faker stories, although usually it’s college campuses. You see fake stories like this all the time? Really? I don’t. In fact the last “faker” story I can remember was when that chick carved a backwards B in forehead and claimed it was Obama thugs who did it. Any chance you could link to the plethora of “fakers” you generally run across? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4656 "2016-05-17T19:24:21Z")
> **[Racist dorm door writing was hoax, Grand Valley State U police say](https://legalinsurrection.com/2014/03/racist-dorm-door-writing-was-hoax-grand-valley-state-u-police-say/)** > > Echoes of The Great Oberlin College Racism Hoax of 2013. > **[Fake ‘hate crimes’ continue to plague campuses](https://dailycaller.com/2013/08/27/fake-hate-crimes-continue-to-plague-campuses/)** > > The Oberlin incident, and others, help drive the crackdown on free speech at universities. > **[FAKE HATE: Charges Filed Against Black Students For Fabricating Racial...](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/fake-hate-charges-filed-black-students-fabricating-racial-incident/)** > > FakeHate™ atUniversity of Albany. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4657 "2016-05-17T19:31:56Z")
The first one is pretty damning, despite the biased source, but the other two are a little stretchy if you ask me. It’s all a lot of, “sources say,” and things, “may have happened,” or it’s an out and out stupid prank. At any rate, you’ve hardly posted proof of an epidemic of anything. This sort of thing of course happens; people are assholes … but it hardly rises to the level of “problem.” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4658 "2016-05-17T19:37:19Z")
Didn’t claim an epidemic, only that I read a lot of those stories and they usually take place on college campuses. Those links just came from a two second search. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4659 "2016-05-17T19:47:00Z")
Right Wing Google? Good site. Clear your cookies. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4660 "2016-05-17T19:56:15Z")
It’s really sad how lame this thread is. Clothahump’s mundane policy tempests-in-teapots. Adaher’s irrelevant college hijinks… There’s so little of note, especially compared to the Stupid GOP Idea of the Day thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=232) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=234)