# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4681 "2016-05-18T14:28:40Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Take it up with James Comey:
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/murder-spike-cities-fbi-james-comey-223082](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/murder-spike-cities-fbi-james-comey-223082)

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> The FBI chief has acknowledged that the surge in murders is perplexing in several respects, including the fact that some cities have not seen any uptick while others are experiencing a shocking level of violence.

Read your cites.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4682 "2016-05-18T14:32:47Z")

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He also suspects police are holding back.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4683 "2016-05-18T14:42:17Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Wait, what? Firstly, if you’re talking about Clinton, I’m not sure how he could “bring her down.”

This is one you can reason out yourself. Be adrift on your sea. Calm your mind. Think about it.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4684 "2016-05-18T15:00:19Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> This is one you can reason out yourself. Be adrift on your sea. Calm your mind. Think about it.

Hijack:

**Knorf** , every time I see your name, I think of [this](https://www.google.com/search?q=snarf&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=799&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiplLOt8ePMAhXh1IMKHYfsAtwQ_AUIBigB) guy.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4685 "2016-05-18T15:12:13Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> He also suspects police are holding back.

Holding back what?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4686 "2016-05-18T15:14:28Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Holding back what?

Evidence?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4687 "2016-05-18T15:14:34Z")

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On being aggressive with suspicious people. You don’t stop murders by arresting murderers, you stop murders by stopping and questioning people skulking around for no reason you can determine except to be up to no good.

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4688 "2016-05-18T15:28:54Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> On being aggressive with suspicious people. You don’t stop murders by arresting murderers, you stop murders by stopping and questioning people skulking around for no reason you can determine except to be up to no good.

😃

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4689 "2016-05-18T15:40:18Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> This is one you can reason out yourself. Be adrift on your sea. Calm your mind. Think about it.

No, sorry, I’m completely serious. How can Sanders “bring down” Clinton, particularly since, as you say, he cannot/will not win? You’re free to assume I’m an idiot if it makes you feel better about explaining, but I straight-up do not understand your point.  
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4690 "2016-05-18T16:35:41Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> On being aggressive with suspicious people. You don’t stop murders by arresting murderers, you stop murders by stopping and questioning people skulking around for no reason you can determine except to be up to no good.

You really need to think this one over. “Skulking”? How in the name of bleeding Jeebus do you determine someone is “skulking”? What evidence is to be depended upon? Inappropriate dress and demeanor? An inexplicable level of skin pigmentation? What?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4691 "2016-05-18T18:44:03Z")

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If you catch them skulking, there’s a good chance you could get them on aggravated mopery too.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4692 "2016-05-18T19:08:13Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> No, sorry, I’m completely serious. How can Sanders “bring down” Clinton, particularly since, as you say, he cannot/will not win?

He could prove spoiler to the general election, either by breaking his promise outright and running as a third party candidate (that’s not likely), or by continuing to use incendiary, distortionist attacks on Hillary and her campaign, driving a hard wedge and widening the gap (whether perceived or real) between his supporters and her campaign, and turning a blind eye to the extremist and coalition-destructive behavior of his followers, to the effect that not enough of them vote for her in the general election, and Trump wins.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4693 "2016-05-18T19:11:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You really need to think this one over. “Skulking”? How in the name of bleeding Jeebus do you determine someone is “skulking”? What evidence is to be depended upon? Inappropriate dress and demeanor? An inexplicable level of skin pigmentation? What?

I found an example of skulking that Adaher could print out as a reference card:

[http://unicorn.indenial.com:8000/clipart/clipart/transBG/scooby\_shaggy\_tiptoeingT.jpg](http://unicorn.indenial.com:8000/clipart/clipart/transBG/scooby_shaggy_tiptoeingT.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4694 "2016-05-18T19:28:00Z")

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No, he’s white, he’d never be charged with skulking.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4695 "2016-05-18T19:34:36Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> He could prove spoiler to the general election, either by breaking his promise outright and running as a third party candidate (that’s not likely), or by continuing to use incendiary, distortionist attacks on Hillary and her campaign, driving a hard wedge and widening the gap (whether perceived or real) between his supporters and her campaign, and turning a blind eye to the extremist and coalition-destructive behavior of his followers, to the effect that not enough of them vote for her in the general election, and Trump wins.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4696 "2016-05-18T19:45:13Z")

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I am not convinced that skulking is a typical precursor to _most_ murders (since **idioher** _specifically_ mentioned murder).

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4697 "2016-05-18T20:32:58Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> The first one is pretty damning, despite the biased source, but the other two are a little stretchy if you ask me. It’s all a lot of, “sources say,” and things, “may have happened,” or it’s an out and out stupid prank.
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> At any rate, you’ve hardly posted proof of an epidemic of anything. This sort of thing of course happens; people are assholes … but it hardly rises to the level of “problem.”

Third link is pretty solid too. There were [cameras](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/nyregion/racism-charges-in-bus-incident-and-their-unraveling-upset-u-of-albany.html) on the bus that recorded the supposed racial violence. Turns out the accusers were the only ones violent. They are being prosecuted for assault among other things.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4698 "2016-05-18T21:40:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Lurking with intent to loom.

- “Spider” John Koerner

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4699 "2016-05-19T15:02:30Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Take it up with James Comey:
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/murder-spike-cities-fbi-james-comey-223082](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/murder-spike-cities-fbi-james-comey-223082)

No, I’m taking it up with you. You said it. Comey didn’t. Nowhere in this article does he suggest that liberals are responsible for an uptick in murder.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/4700 "2016-05-19T15:10:25Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Hijack:
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> **Knorf** , every time I see your name, I think of [this](https://www.google.com/search?q=snarf&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=799&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiplLOt8ePMAhXh1IMKHYfsAtwQ_AUIBigB) guy.

Funny. Whenever I see his name I think of [this guy](http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0809/narf-pinky-narf-idiot-demotivational-poster-1220654049.jpg). 😛

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