# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 251
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5001 "2016-07-19T16:37:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Which means you’ll have to overturn Buckley too. I’ll get the shovel, you get the crowbar ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5002 "2016-07-19T16:39:16Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Not all of their money. Just the obscene amount of it. Why does it matter how much? How do you know how much is too much, and why? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5003 "2016-07-19T16:41:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The proposed DISCLOSE Act is 100% constitutional provided there are no exemptions. I think it’s still completely unconstitutional. Part of the right of speech, and association, is anonymity. See NAACP v. Alabama (and the Founding Fathers who often spoke or wrote anonymously). ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5004 "2016-07-19T16:43:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Contributors” is the simple and direct noun form, since they are defined by an act, “contributing”. Trying to get away with calling them “speakers” is buggering the question, that is, assuming what you want for a conclusion as a given. > > Subtle. But you gotta get up pretty early in the afternoon to get one past me. You understand the difference between giving money to someone and spending it on your own speech, right? Right? Nobody is calling a contributor a speaker. They are different things. The idea that you can regulate speech as a “contribution” to that candidate just because it benefits a candidate is silly. It’s like saying that when you buy a bumper sticker (from a third party) in support of a candidate, that’s a contribution to the candidate and can be regulated or banned. It’s Orwellian nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5005 "2016-07-19T16:46:14Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Why does it matter how much? How do you know how much is too much, and why? Because I don’t want my elected representatives to be more beholden to a single person in Montana or corporation in Vermont than all the residents of my district put together. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5006 "2016-07-19T17:12:18Z")
That’s unavoidable due to other types of influence. Michigan Congressmen aren’t protectionist and anti-climate change regulations because of auto industry donations. It’s because if the auto industry died, so would their state. And they’d lose their jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5007 "2016-07-19T17:31:40Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > [read the map](https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2016); Green countries are free, yellow are partly free, blue are not free. Israel and America are not only free, but America freed the world from fascism … No, America fucking didn’t. You didn’t even enter the war until December 1941, you pathetic dunce of a muppet fuckiing dipstick. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5008 "2016-07-19T19:13:26Z")
> [@Strassia](#): > > Because I don’t want my elected representatives to be more beholden to a single person in Montana or corporation in Vermont than all the residents of my district put together. Too bad. You don’t get to suppress speech because you want something. If you don’t get what you want out of an elected representative, you vote for someone else. That’s how democracy works. If you think he’s beholden to some interest you don’t like, for any reason, that’s your option. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5009 "2016-07-19T19:14:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > No, America fucking didn’t. You didn’t even enter the war until December 1941, you pathetic dunce of a muppet fuckiing dipstick. Wait, we weren’t essential to winning the war because we only fought the last four years of it? Huh? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5010 "2016-07-19T19:17:10Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s unavoidable due to other types of influence. Michigan Congressmen aren’t protectionist and anti-climate change regulations because of auto industry donations. It’s because if the auto industry died, so would their state. And they’d lose their jobs. Yes, exactly. But people focus on money because they can’t distinguish between money going to a candidate and money spent by someone else on speech about a candidate (except the media - they can spend all they want on speech and it’s not “influence” at all!) They see money next to politics and they freak out. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5011 "2016-07-19T19:22:31Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Wait, we weren’t essential to winning the war because we only fought the last four years of it? Huh? You stupid pathetic asshole boil. You did not say “we were essential to winning the war”. You said “America freed the world from fascism” Go back and read your own words dipstick. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5012 "2016-07-19T19:31:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You stupid pathetic asshole boil. You did not say “we were essential to winning the war”. You said “America freed the world from fascism” > > Go back and read your own words dipstick. They weren’t my words. Dipstick. But I’d say we free the world from fascism too. How it matters that we didn’t join that fight until 1941 means we didn’t do it at all is beyond me. I guess you’re objecting to the idea that we did it all by ourselves, is that it? True, it was a joint effort. Calm down and stop slinging insults and maybe you’ll get to the point faster. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5013 "2016-07-19T19:34:04Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > I’ll get the shovel, you get the crowbar The government has banned you from spending money on computers and internet service. You may continue to post until your next ISP bill, and then you’re done. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5014 "2016-07-19T19:36:29Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > They weren’t my words. > > Dipstick. > > But I’d say we free the world from fascism too. How it matters that we didn’t join that fight until 1941 means we didn’t do it at all is beyond me. I guess you’re objecting to the idea that we did it all by ourselves, is that it? True, it was a joint effort. Calm down and stop slinging insults and maybe you’ll get to the point faster. > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Israel and America are not only free, but **America freed the world from fascism** and communism, and will do so from Islamism. My bolding. Jesus. You have the memory of a fucking goldfish. Of course the USA was part of the fight against fascism, you gibbering monkey. But that’s not what you said. Take some responsibility for your own stupid word choice mate. Or just post “America, Fuck Yah!” and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5015 "2016-07-19T19:42:12Z")
LOL, this will be funny in a few minutes when you realize u r dum ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5016 "2016-07-19T19:50:00Z")
OK, now I"m laughing at myself… ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5017 "2016-07-19T19:57:46Z")
see? :)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5018 "2016-07-19T20:04:04Z")
Good God. Apologies to **Lance** ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5019 "2016-07-19T20:08:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Good God. Apologies to **Lance** I think you mean “gibbering monkey”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5020 "2016-07-20T00:43:58Z")
[Sigh. Here are liberals being very, very stupid.](http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/02/donald-trump-america-never-great-f-trump-hate/) Protesters at the Republican Convention waving Mexican flags, burning U.S. flags, and holding up banners that say, “This is Mexico” and “America was Never Great.” Lovely bunch of total assholes, doing their own cause immense harm. (And, yeah, fine, it’s Breitbart: the trouble is it’s the truth. I first heard the story on CBS radio news.) (I am a liberal. I’m slamming these guys because they aren’t helping advance liberal causes.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=250) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=252)