# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 256
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5101 "2016-07-23T21:42:54Z")
> [@Icerigger](#): > > I would like to know the difference between sharia law and biblical law the Republican base cares so much about. There isn’t any beyond Christian=good, Muslim=bad. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5102 "2016-07-23T21:51:53Z")
> [@Icerigger](#): > > I would like to know the difference between sharia law and biblical law the Republican base cares so much about. Not much. Punish a rape victim? Check. No prohibition of slavery, polygamy, or pedophilia? Check. Kill gays? Check. Death penalty for all kinds of trivial offenses, like gathering sticks for a fire on the Sabbath? Check. The difference in practice is that Muslims seem to take their Holy Scriptures seriously, while most Christians and many Jews feel free to consider the Law a series of suggestions for them to pick and choose from. Luckily, despite the best efforts of the right wingnuts, we now have separation of Church and State in the west. But as the Middle Ages clearly show, a Christian theocracy, or even a kingdom that took the Bible seriously, would be just as oppressive as a Muslim theocracy. For Jews, it was usually worse, which is why so many Jews fled Christian countries for the more tolerant Muslim regimes. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5103 "2016-07-23T22:07:05Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > There isn’t any beyond Christian=good, Muslim=bad. What is bad, is either side saying their religious law supersedes constitutional law. It happens frequently in the US. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5104 "2016-07-23T22:14:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > What is bad, is either side saying their religious law supersedes constitutional law. It happens frequently in the US. And Cruz has a goal of making it permanent. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5105 "2016-07-23T22:49:50Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Context of your Holder quote: > > [QUOTE=Eric Holder] > Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards. Though race related issues continue to occupy a significant portion of our political discussion, and though there remain many unresolved racial issues in this nation, we, average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race. It is an issue we have never been at ease with and given our nation’s history this is in some ways understandable. And yet, if we are to make progress in this area we must feel comfortable enough with one another, and tolerant enough of each other, to have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us. I shouldn’t be surprised. You specialize in misleading and bullshit innuendo. [/QUOTE] I know that Holder was talking about race, which is why I consider that an unnecessary polarizing comment he should’ve known would make members of the country’s racial majority offender. [QUOTE=iiandyiiii] What does “if I had a son…” have to do with not waiting for facts to be in? There’s no connection except in your ignorant and bigoted anti-Obama fantasies. [/QUOTE] Because that comment implies that what the kid looked like factored into what happened rather than what he might have been doing. And honestly, your party and ideology line defense of Obama fails. You tend to see everything thru that lens a lot. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5106 "2016-07-23T22:51:06Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Because that comment implies that what the kid looked like factored into what happened rather than what he might have been doing. No it doesn’t, you ignorant bigot. It implies that Obama feels sympathy for the boy’s family. > [@](#): > > And honestly, your party and ideology line defense of Obama fails. You tend to see everything thru that lens a lot. I see it through reality, while you see it through an ignorant and bigoted fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5107 "2016-07-23T23:06:03Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No it doesn’t, you ignorant bigot. It implies that Obama feels sympathy for the boy’s family. > > I see it through reality, while you see it through an ignorant and bigoted fantasy. is there any criticism of Obama’s approach to race that is NOT bigoted, to you? I’m not one of these conservatives who think racism is all gone, but I’m not one of these liberals who thinks every criticism of Obama or his approach to race is racist. Oh and yea, today, I registered in my state as an independent, in part because of far-left types like yourself. I’ll still prob vote for Hillary (bc I don’t want America losing its pre-eminence in the world to Russia with Trump or ruining relations with our neighbor) but if this purge of moderates is what people like you want, reap what you sow; thats in part why I’ll split my ticket for GOP senate/house candidates in my district. I’m still a DLC/Third Way Democrat at heart, but folks like you don’t want us. We’re not pure enough. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5108 "2016-07-23T23:20:33Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > is there any criticism of Obama’s approach to race that is NOT bigoted, to you? I’m not one of these conservatives who think racism is all gone, but I’m not one of these liberals who thinks every criticism of Obama or his approach to race is racist. Sure. If you didn’t have such a consistent record on this board of ignorance and bigotry, I’d consider that maybe your arguments weren’t based on bigotry. But you have that, due to your posts – you’ve consistently repeated vile and overtly bigoted statements (mostly against trans people), and you’ve consistently posted veiled bigoted statements about Obama in particular (hinting at a foreignness or a lack of patriotism), without the backing of any of his actual statements. > [@](#): > > Oh and yea, today, I registered in my state as an independent, in part because of far-left types like yourself. I’ll still prob vote for Hillary (bc I don’t want America losing its pre-eminence in the world to Russia with Trump or ruining relations with our neighbor) but if this purge of moderates is what people like you want, reap what you sow; thats in part why I’ll split my ticket for GOP senate/house candidates in my district. I’m still a DLC/Third Way Democrat at heart, but folks like you don’t want us. We’re not pure enough. The loss of ignorant bigots from the Democratic party doesn’t concern me that much. You’re a rare ignorant bigot – a young one… most of the bigots the Democratic party has lost in recent years were old. But you’re still a bigot, at least based on the things you post on this board. It’s not your DLC/Third Way or lack of progressive beliefs that concern me, it’s the consistency with which you repeat nonsense, despite being corrected over and over again, as well as the plain vile bigotry you spout about trans people. There are plenty of moderate or conservative Democrats that I have no problem with, because they don’t regularly say bigoted things, or consistently repeat disproven nonsense. But that ain’t you. If you don’t want to be called a bigot, don’t post bigoted things. If you don’t want to be called ignorant, quit repeating disproven nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5109 "2016-07-23T23:31:20Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I understand the temptation for a guy like Obama to speak from the black man’s perspective; but as President of the US, he is supposed to represent the whole country, white, black, and the others. T **his country is still majority white**. Also, he has a duty to wait for the facts to be in, not saying “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” Nor should he have commented on Henry Louis Gates until facts were known. Nor should his AG called America a “nation of cowards.” You Republicans squirm and whine horribly when someone isn’t a white male christian republican. Tell me, how did George Bush “represent” blacks, gays and atheists during his Presidency? I mean, you just said he has to represent the whole country. **Or are you saying the President has to be white and represent white people because the majority of the country is white?** ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5110 "2016-07-23T23:48:44Z")
Congressman Chris Duffy says that we should vote for Trump because he represents white men. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5111 "2016-07-24T00:14:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No it doesn’t, you ignorant bigot. … > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > … > Oh and yea, today, I registered in my state as an independent, in part because of far-left types like yourself. Way to go iiandyiiii, Registered Democrats have just lost the chance to have as their own this true voice of stupidity. I hope you’re pleased. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5112 "2016-07-25T15:37:57Z")
So by now, we’ve all heard that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is stepping down as DNC chair and her role at the convention will be reduced. This was following Russian hacked DNC emails released by Wikileaks showing that she and others in the DNC favored Clinton and worked to get her elected instead of Sanders. That’s the stupid part. They should have trusted the process and not done it so overtly and have it blow up in their faces which they should have known would happen. However, in her defense, Sanders is an Independent with liberal views. I don’t think its a big deal to have the DEMOCRATIC national committee favor an actual Democrat. Like Nixon, its the coverup, not the crime, that is the big deal. I’ve no problems with the DNC favoring one candidate or another, and I certainly don’t think a reflexive elimination of super delegates is the answer, though that might help to calm the mob. It was a small mistake on the part of DWS that blew up into a bigger thing and that is where the stupid is. Favoring Clinton is fine ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5113 "2016-07-25T15:41:40Z")
There are ways to favor someone and ways you shouldn’t. setting up the debates to favor Clinton, and worse doing it because she had no faith in Clinton, was just stupid as hell. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5114 "2016-07-25T16:00:53Z")
Yep – DWS was dumb, and especially since all her shenanigans probably hurt Clinton more than they helped her. She did great in the debates, and more debates would have been fine. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5115 "2016-07-25T16:05:18Z")
Didn’t they end up just having a lot more debates anyway? I recall a lot more than six. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5116 "2016-07-25T19:53:41Z")
Dammit, Bernie supporters are marching through the streets of Philadelphia chanting “Lock her up” and booing Bernie when he calls for unity. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5117 "2016-07-25T22:03:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yep – DWS was dumb, and especially since all her shenanigans probably hurt Clinton more than they helped her. She did great in the debates, and more debates would have been fine. DWS got her payoff, though. Booted out of her job with the DNC and immediately hired by Hillary. Gotta love it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5118 "2016-07-25T22:05:49Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > DWS got her payoff, though. Booted out of her job with the DNC and immediately hired by Hillary. > > Gotta love it. I do love it – hired as honorary chair, an incredibly prestigious position held by the likes of Eva Longoria and Lincoln Chaffee in 2012. Truly an important (and unpaid) political position. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5119 "2016-07-25T23:02:01Z")
Well, the honorary chair in the Republican Party means you get to share a stage with Clint Eastwood. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5120 "2016-07-25T23:15:54Z")
Clothy’s “contributions” to this thread almost always feature distortion of the truth or flat out falsehoods. Here’s another example, yawn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=255) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=257)