# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 258
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5141 "2016-07-28T03:08:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Can you please explain why? Or did you just see the page title and not read what it’s about? I did read the website. Uptight white liberals are offering cooking lessons as reparations. Seriously, the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. ---
**Author:** ![TipTapTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@TipTapTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TipTapTwo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5142 "2016-07-28T03:08:56Z")
So it is some artsy social experiment that hopes it will become something akin to a race-gated GoFundMe/Pay-It-Forward? Eeeh…, sure, whatever. Can we agree that all charity is good charity? If this type of guilt is what it takes for some people to do good deeds for others, then I thank Natasha Marin for creating something that made the world slightly more kind and thoughtful. Certainly every type of charity can, and will, be abused; but even if only one person was genuinely helped out of their hole, is that not worth it? What is the alternative, never lend aid to anyone ever? Constantly breath down the neck of the charity case and keep him on a short leash, until he is a proper productive citizen again? That is a legitimate stance, just as the opposite is. That is the beauty of society, each individual can weigh in with their thoughts and actions and do as they please. Each individual can learn from their own experience, and those around them, about how they should best act. We are all just singular data-points on how (not) to live a good life, how we are all collected and analyzed by others is how they learn to act in their own life. So while you might have been burned by past “mistakes” and jaded by the results of your own charity, other equally valid viewpoints have lived different lives that led to them being fine with charity. Or at least, will begrudgingly give when their white guilt button is pressed. Either way, good is being done to others. I accept and acknowledge your experiences that led you to believe that race-gating GoFundMe is a stupid idea. I agree with your points. I also accept that the people on both sides of this social experiment are going in of their own free will and making other lives better than if this site had not existed, if only for the moment. I agree that it is sad that some people will not actively care about others unless they are guilted into it; and that it is sad that a site that explicitly race-gates the charity actually has users giving above and beyond what they already do on GoFundMe. But, I am glad that more good works have been squeezed out people. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5143 "2016-07-28T03:14:35Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I did read the website. Uptight white liberals are offering cooking lessons as reparations. Seriously, the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. What gives you the idea that they’re liberals? And what makes them uptight? And you’re really hung up on the NAME of the page and not the content, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5144 "2016-07-28T03:19:39Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What gives you the idea that they’re liberals? You can’t be serious. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5145 "2016-07-28T03:21:19Z")
whatever. You don’t answer questions with anything approaching sense, so I will disengage. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5146 "2016-07-28T03:21:56Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > You can’t be serious. He is. And stop calling him Yahoo. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5147 "2016-07-28T03:38:04Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > new stupid liberal idea of the day: yelling “no more war” at Leon Panetta from the Bernie Bolsheviks. For sure; this deserves to be here. ETA: **D’Anconia** epitomizes what is wrong with America. Knee-jerk reaction, total lack of compassion, deluded world view. ---
**Author:** ![TipTapTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@TipTapTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TipTapTwo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5148 "2016-07-28T03:40:26Z")
[QUOTE=running coach] He is. And stop calling him Yahoo. [/QUOTE] ??? I went back 3 pages and the word “yahoo” was never used. When did **D’Anconia** call **Rick Kitchen** Yahoo? Certainly “liberal” and “conservative” are big enough tents that some “fiscal conservatives” can still have enough white guilt in them to use [reparations.me](http://reparations.me) , or maybe they for whatever reason want to just target their help to an African-american in just this instance. There are so many types of conservative, some at odds with “core” party platforms, as “log cabin republicans” can be the conservatively-marginalized gay class, yet still care more about the financial issues and care about other conservative issues. Thus, while unlikely, I can see why a conservative in the general sense might still use this site. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5149 "2016-07-28T03:40:31Z")
Calling them Bolsheviks isn’t correct, though. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5150 "2016-07-28T03:49:50Z")
Obama gave a decent speech, but I did not like the shoutout to the un-American hijab, or putting killing cops in the same sentence as the experience of some non-whites. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5151 "2016-07-28T03:57:00Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > For sure; this deserves to be here. > > ETA: **D’Anconia** epitomizes what is wrong with America. Knee-jerk reaction, total lack of compassion, deluded world view. What does “lack of compassion” have to do with anything? Offering cooking lessons as reparations is **literally** the stupidest I’ve ever encountered. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5152 "2016-07-28T03:57:37Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > …I did not like the shoutout to the un-American hijab… There’s nothing “un-American” about wearing a hijab. Or do you not believe in religious freedom as a core tenet? ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5153 "2016-07-28T04:04:13Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > There’s nothing “un-American” about wearing a hijab. Or do you not believe in religious freedom as a core tenet? I never argued that its something people shouldn’t have freedom to do, but I’m very soured on Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5154 "2016-07-28T04:18:31Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I never argued that its something people shouldn’t have freedom to do, but I’m very soured on Islam. That’s fine, but it isn’t “un-American.” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5155 "2016-07-28T04:47:47Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I never argued that its something people shouldn’t have freedom to do, but I’m very soured on Islam. I’m sure they’re heartbroken to hear that. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5156 "2016-07-28T06:30:13Z")
> [@TipTapTwo](#): > > ??? I went back 3 pages and the word “yahoo” was never used. When did **D’Anconia** call **Rick Kitchen** Yahoo? There was [a guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo_Serious). Kind of obscure, perhaps, but shirley you had heard of him? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5157 "2016-07-28T07:55:53Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I never argued that its something people shouldn’t have freedom to do, but I’m very soured on Islam. Really? You should have said something earlier. We had no clue you felt this way. On the “reparations” front, while well-meaning white people offering services to “People of Color” in order to assuage their collective guilt for past societal wrongdoing is…let’s say “spectacularly naive and potentially condescending”… it is at worst ultimately harmless and at best will help many people at an individual level, even if it has fuck-all to do with reparations for slavery. So on the “stupid” scale this is pretty small potatoes. Over in SRIOTD at the moment we’ve got Trump asking a hostile foreign government to actively engage in illegal activity to help him win the election, which is “stupid” in the sense of being illegal, immoral, dangerous, and outright treasonous. Put the two side-by-side and the reparations site is a “molehill” next to Trump’s “The Entire Planet Jupiter”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5158 "2016-07-28T08:03:44Z")
Well, now, maybe I’m reading this wrong, but seems to me Mr Trump is assuming that the Russians already _have_ the e-mails, having already done the “hacking”. Urging them to turn over their ill-gotten gains to the FBI. Why, looked at in the right light, with a bit of squinting, one could see this as urging Putin to _atone_ for his impulsive little prank. Kinda like a fraternity prank, but rather than Tappa Kegga Bru, its the KGB. Anyway, if he’s talking in the past tense, he can’t be said to be urging some _future_ act of villainy. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5159 "2016-07-28T08:43:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Anyway, if he’s talking in the past tense, he can’t be said to be urging some _future_ act of villainy. Yes! Ha ha! Of course he can’t! That would just be crazy talk! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5160 "2016-07-28T09:19:07Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Obama gave a decent speech, but I did not like the shoutout to the un-American hijab, or putting killing cops in the same sentence as the experience of some non-whites. There’s nothing in American about big scarves. And you really don’t think killing black people is comparable to killing cops? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=257) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=259)