# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 265
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5281 "2016-08-07T06:17:32Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I’ve never condoned the papacy; and I don’t really think much of most religions in general, so I could give a fuck less of what King (the Pope is an absolute monarch after all) Francis thinks. Aww look weeman00 came back. Answer the previous question? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5282 "2016-08-07T10:06:23Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I’ve never condoned the papacy; and I don’t really think much of most religions in general, so I could give a fuck less of what King (the Pope is an absolute monarch after all) Francis thinks. Then why do you give a shit what others think? Chrissakes, get your logic together. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5283 "2016-08-07T13:31:35Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > … what it is… A message board can really come together to ridicule a particularly stupid, ignorant piece of [del]low hanging fruit[/del] shit. A cynic might think of you as a plant from the board gods here to ironcally foster a sense of unity. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5284 "2016-08-07T22:09:22Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > …I could give a fuck less of what King…Francis thinks. Except when you agree with him. > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > (the Pope is an absolute monarch after all) I suppose papal succession goes to the eldest son, then. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5285 "2016-08-08T00:30:04Z")
> [@Esox\_Lucius](#): > > I suppose papal succession goes to the eldest son, then. an [elective monarchy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy) is still monarchy and can still produce rulers who can legally rule by decree and a whim. His Majesty King Francis is a dictator and a monarch. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5286 "2016-08-08T01:18:25Z")
Popes are far from absolute monarchs. There are more checks and balances at the Vatican than you appear to know. If Popes had absolute power, with no limitations, John Paul II would have introduced Mariolatry outright, instead of making some careful nudges in that direction (Mary as “co-redemptrix.”) He wasn’t able to do all he wanted, and he was far more powerful (i.e., had more of the Cardinals on his side) than Francis. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5287 "2016-08-08T02:08:23Z")
I’ve got an idea - let’s move this **DerekMichaels00** bullshit to another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5288 "2016-08-08T02:12:25Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > an [elective monarchy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy) is still monarchy and can still produce rulers who can legally rule by decree and a whim. His Majesty King Francis is a dictator and a monarch. Maybe; this IS Italy after all. Maybe he’s like the Patriarch of Ankh-Morpork: he is an absolute dictator for life, only that’s not necessarily a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5289 "2016-08-08T02:35:12Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I’ve never condoned the papacy; and I don’t really think much of most religions in general, so I could give a fuck less of what King (the Pope is an absolute monarch after all) Francis thinks. _checks that this is The Pit_ Q: if the Pope had DerekMichaels00 in one hand and David Duke in the other, how would he tell them apart? See? And YOU thought I was going to ask “How many of you would give up your Monday morning donut just to see the Pope break character and [knock both of their heads together???](http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2016-08-07_1461683041535257/movies/three_stooges/boop.wav)” ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5290 "2016-08-08T02:41:53Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > would have introduced Mariolatry outright. (Quote shortened) Wish he’d have done that. I grew up a Luigiolator. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5291 "2016-08-08T05:53:11Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > You? You’re a bigoted little prick. I don’t know how you’ve made it this far in life with your **head constantly up your ass**. As a liberal, I am afraid I must oppose your hate speech here. You should be more respectful towards Transanus-Americans like Der Zero here. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5292 "2016-08-08T08:37:29Z")
I clicked to see what some of the fuss was about re: **Derek**. Here are some comments on just one of his posts. > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Freedom House ranks Iran as “not free” nor do they rank it as an electoral democracy (which really only means anything if the society is ranked free). Iran is ranked as more democratic than Saudi Arabia, and happier than India, South Africa or, of course, the U.S.-bred foundlings Iraq and Afghanistan. Since we’re comparing countries, lets try [the _Economist_’s Democracy Index.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index) The U.S. barely qualifies as “Full Democracy” — it ranks #20; Italy at #21 is a “Flawed Democracy.” U.S.'s civil liberties score of 8.24 is, by far, the lowest among the top #33 on the overall list, though it’s way ahead of the #34 country — Israel. It’s moot how much importance to give such lists, but, given the low scores of U.S.A. and Israel, amusing that Derek insisted on using such a list to rate Iran. > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Also, Reza Pahlavi was far better on human rights than the Mullah Regime Some observers would disagree with this claim: [QUOTE=[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/world/middleeast/years-of-torture-in-iran-comes-to-light.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/world/middleeast/years-of-torture-in-iran-comes-to-light.html)] Mr. Asadi said he was … hung by a chain attached to his arms twisted behind his back while the soles of his feet were whipped until he was unable to walk. Brother Hamid forced him to bark like a dog to speak or when the pain was too much and he was ready to make confessions. His ears were hit and his teeth were broken. Mr. Asadi said he had even been forced to eat his own excrement and the excrement of fellow prisoners. Beyond physical pain, he endured psychological torture. He was shown coffins and told his comrades had been killed. He would hear screams and was made to believe his wife was being tortured in the cell next to him. Allowed sporadic visits of only 15 minutes, his wife said his torment was evident. “I didn’t recognize him,” Nooshabeh Amiri, Mr. Asadi’s wife, said of her first visit, six months after his arrest. “He was fat, he was dirty, he had a long beard. But especially in his eyes, they were not the same. You could see that nothing passed through; it was just fear and being helpless.” [/QUOTE] Explaining why he insists on using the President’s middle name: > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Seeing as this is the Pit, I’ll say that while I got no issue with Obama’s background, I do have a problem with his view of the Muslim world and Islam; … If Obama honoured the great principles of American exceptionalism and support/honour for the Jewish State of Israel that his predecessors did (as in not publicly chiding it and its leaders as only he does), I wouldn’t mind him. Hey, Derek, why not shit two turds with one grunt by spelling his name\* Barack Hussei Nobama\*Not only can you pretend his name counts 6-6-6 like the Antichrist, but you get “No-bama” for free. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5293 "2016-08-08T09:52:35Z")
Speaking of numerology, the zeros might not even be zeroes, they may be a graphic representation of balls being plopped on one’s face. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5294 "2016-08-09T13:18:20Z")
One has to wonder why Hillary thought it would be a good idea to ignore an American gold medalist and instead praise a competitor in a hajib. Especially one who then turned around and badmouthed the country she competed for. [http://www.youngcons.com/clinton-congratulates-hijab-wearing-american-olympian-on-twitter-ignores-female-medalist-who-wins-gold-in-air-rifle/](http://www.youngcons.com/clinton-congratulates-hijab-wearing-american-olympian-on-twitter-ignores-female-medalist-who-wins-gold-in-air-rifle/) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5295 "2016-08-09T13:24:13Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > One has to wonder why Hillary thought it would be a good idea to ignore an American gold medalist and instead praise a competitor in a hajib. Especially one who then turned around and badmouthed the country she competed for. > > [http://www.youngcons.com/clinton-congratulates-hijab-wearing-american-olympian-on-twitter-ignores-female-medalist-who-wins-gold-in-air-rifle/](http://www.youngcons.com/clinton-congratulates-hijab-wearing-american-olympian-on-twitter-ignores-female-medalist-who-wins-gold-in-air-rifle/) If she doesn’t personally congratulate every medal winner, she’s “ignoring” them? And where did Muhammed badmouth the USA? I saw no badmouthing in your link, nor from googling. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5296 "2016-08-09T13:34:01Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > One has to wonder why Hillary thought it would be a good idea to ignore an American gold medalist and instead praise a competitor in a hajib. Especially one who then turned around and badmouthed the country she competed for. > > [http://www.youngcons.com/clinton-congratulates-hijab-wearing-american-olympian-on-twitter-ignores-female-medalist-who-wins-gold-in-air-rifle/](http://www.youngcons.com/clinton-congratulates-hijab-wearing-american-olympian-on-twitter-ignores-female-medalist-who-wins-gold-in-air-rifle/) > [@](#): > > If it isn’t clear to you by now, Hillary is proud of women when it fits her political agenda. > > If not, she could do without them. Yes, isn’t it awful how some people only express pride in Olympic competitors when it fits their agenda, and dismiss others when it doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5297 "2016-08-09T14:43:44Z")
> [@Esox\_Lucius](#): > > I suppose papal succession goes to the eldest son, then. I miss the good old days. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5298 "2016-08-09T15:08:49Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If she doesn’t personally congratulate every medal winner, she’s “ignoring” them? And where did Muhammed badmouth the USA? I saw no badmouthing in your link, nor from googling. It was linked to in the article. [http://www.youngcons.com/female-muslim-american-olympian-slams-usa-because-she-feels-unsafe-all-the-time/](http://www.youngcons.com/female-muslim-american-olympian-slams-usa-because-she-feels-unsafe-all-the-time/) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5299 "2016-08-09T15:48:19Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > It was linked to in the article. > > [http://www.youngcons.com/female-muslim-american-olympian-slams-usa-because-she-feels-unsafe-all-the-time/](http://www.youngcons.com/female-muslim-american-olympian-slams-usa-because-she-feels-unsafe-all-the-time/) _Young Cons Con Old Man_ ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5300 "2016-08-09T15:58:34Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > It was linked to in the article. > > [http://www.youngcons.com/female-muslim-american-olympian-slams-usa-because-she-feels-unsafe-all-the-time/](http://www.youngcons.com/female-muslim-american-olympian-slams-usa-because-she-feels-unsafe-all-the-time/) That’s what I saw earlier, but I still don’t see any badmouthing of the USA. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=264) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=266)