# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 278
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5541 "2016-11-29T16:47:58Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Tim Kaine tweeted about the “senseless act of gun violence” at OSU. > > Turns out the attacker was a Muslim student who jumped the curb with his car into a crowd, then got out and started attacking people with a knife. He was shot by a police officer and killed. > > 60+ million bozos thought this jackass would have been a good VP. > > [http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/eric-scheiner/kaine-tweets-osu-senseless-act-gun-violence-updates-after-no-gun-involved](http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/eric-scheiner/kaine-tweets-osu-senseless-act-gun-violence-updates-after-no-gun-involved) You are stupid. Or at least you play stupid on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5542 "2016-11-29T16:47:58Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Tim Kaine tweeted about the “senseless act of gun violence” at OSU. The attack was initially reported as a shooting by the University which many media outlets picked up and reported. But sure, that’s Tim Kaine’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5543 "2016-11-29T16:59:28Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Tim Kaine tweeted about the “senseless act of gun violence” at OSU. > > Turns out the attacker was a Muslim student who jumped the curb with his car into a crowd, then got out and started attacking people with a knife. He was shot by a police officer and killed. > > 60+ million bozos thought this jackass would have been a good VP. > > [http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/eric-scheiner/kaine-tweets-osu-senseless-act-gun-violence-updates-after-no-gun-involved](http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/eric-scheiner/kaine-tweets-osu-senseless-act-gun-violence-updates-after-no-gun-involved) So, just to be clear, the complaint here seems to be, “Tim Kaine said something that wasn’t true”. Later investigation shows that other news sources, including those closest to the event, were reporting the same thing, which turned out not to be true. So you have a politician who spoke before having all the facts. By the way, did you hear about that time Trump praised Alex Jones? I’m mostly curious if that registers any cognitive dissonance on your end. Well no, I’m not really wondering. Because you’re a vile, disgusting, intellectually dishonest _cretin_, and the fact that you’re allowed to vote is the best argument I can think of against democracy as a system of governance. Have you made a _single_ post in this thread that wasn’t utter bullshit? Even just _one_? At this point I’d be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5544 "2016-11-29T17:37:34Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > [The Kaine tweet was at 8:28 AM on the 28th](https://twitter.com/timkaine/status/803280422155104257) > > The following is from [NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/28/503589910/at-least-9-injured-following-report-of-active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university) > > I’ve bolded the time just incase it isn’t obvious that the Kaine tweet happened prior to the erroneous OSU tweet. Though to be fair, assuming a gun is involved in mass attacks in the US tends to be a safe bet. Of course, this is also result of the fact that the public demands that politicians react _instantly_ to any breaking news story. How often do you hear criticism when a politician waits for facts to emerge? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5545 "2016-11-29T17:42:12Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > You are stupid. Or at least you play stupid on the SDMB. **Nobody** is that good an actor. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5546 "2016-11-29T17:42:40Z")
> [@](#): > > …How often do you hear criticism when a politician waits for facts to emerge? Mostly, I hear that when the facts pretty much _have_ emerged, and the politician wants to avoid talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5547 "2016-11-29T18:21:05Z")
I agree that Kaine should have waited till more facts were in before assuming the attack was carried out with guns. He could have tweeted something expressing concern and so on without committing himself to much of anything. He should have thought for a minute more before taking to Twitter. Thank god we won’t have a guy with such a careless, shoot-from-the-hip attitude in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5548 "2016-11-29T22:18:08Z")
here’s a new one: Keith Ellison, DNC chair hopeful praising Communist mass murder and terror [supporting](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/28/keith_ellison_praises_fidel_castros_mixed_legacy_he_confronted_people_with_a_lot_of_power.html) Fidel Castro. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5549 "2016-11-29T22:25:21Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > here’s a new one: Keith Ellison, DNC chair hopeful praising Communist mass murder and terror [supporting](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/28/keith_ellison_praises_fidel_castros_mixed_legacy_he_confronted_people_with_a_lot_of_power.html) Fidel Castro. What he actually said was pretty balanced, as you can see from your own cite. He concluded as follows: > [@](#): > > So if you look at his legacy you have to say that he confronted people with a lot of power on behalf of people that didn’t have any. > > He also did jail people who were political critics of his, he also did not allow… free speech…It’s a mixed bag. Seems roughly accurate. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5550 "2016-11-29T23:00:58Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > What he actually said was pretty balanced, as you can see from your own cite. > > He concluded as follows: > > Seems roughly accurate. **Derek** ’s deep leftist roots, which he’s only recently abandoned due to the left’s insistence on PC, demands that Castro be seen for the evil demon he was. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5551 "2016-11-29T23:02:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by \*\*Clothahump \*\* > > 60+ million bozos thought this jackass would have been a good VP. Maybe they just thought he wouldn’t be as bad as Pence. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5552 "2016-11-29T23:18:01Z")
Well, a western New York legislator [is floating a bill](http://buffalonews.com/2016/11/28/erie-county-legislator-spotlight-pence-conversion-therapy-bill/) to outlaw gay conversion [del]therapy[/del] torture, which he has chosen to call **P** revention of **E** motional **N** eglect and **C** hild **E** ndangerment. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5553 "2016-11-30T00:33:47Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > **Derek** ’s deep leftist roots, which he’s only recently abandoned due to the left’s insistence on PC, demands that Castro be seen for the evil demon he was. He was history’s second-greatest monster, second only to Hillary Clinton! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5554 "2016-11-30T02:12:36Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Are you deliberately obtuse or just that stupid? > > People who don’t watch baseball decide to watch crazy, drought-breaking Game 7 of World Series, and don’t understand that K stands for strikeouts, then tweet about it. Also, assuming their liberals, because they’re dumb or because they don’t like the KKK? Are you saying conservatives support the KKK? I didn’t click **Mr. Hump** ’s link, so let me see if I got this right: Random person of unknown political leaning dislikes the Ku Klux Klan and writes something ignorant about baseball. And that is an example of “liberal stupidity.” :eek: I suppose if a random person of unknown political leaning _likes_ the Ku Klux Klan and writes something _smart_ about baseball **Mr. Hump** could use that as an example of Republican intelligence? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5555 "2016-11-30T20:19:27Z")
Tim Kaine blames gun violence for Ohio State attack: > **[Tim Kaine initially blames ‘gun violence’ for Ohio State car-and-knife attack](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/29/tim-kaine-blames-gun-violence-ohio-state-car-and-k/)** > > Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine said Monday he was saddened by the “senseless act of gun violence” at Ohio State University, even though the attacker used a butcher knife and a car. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5556 "2016-11-30T20:24:25Z")
I’m impressed that I’m a better reporter than the Washinton Times [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19816486&postcount=5540](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19816486&postcount=5540) > [@Grey](#): > > [The Kaine tweet was at 8:28 AM on the 28th](https://twitter.com/timkaine/status/803280422155104257) > > The following is from [NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/28/503589910/at-least-9-injured-following-report-of-active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university) > > > [@](#): > > > > OSU’s emergency management division first tweeted a warning about an active shooter at **9:56 a.m.** local time: “Buckeye Alert: Active Shooter on campus. Run Hide Fight. Watts Hall.” Watts Hall houses the Materials Science and Engineering department. > > I’ve bolded the time just incase it isn’t obvious that the Kaine tweet happened prior to the erroneous OSU tweet. Though to be fair, assuming a gun is involved in mass attacks in the US tends to be a safe bet. You can argue that politicians should control their tweets until they can make definitive statements but I think that ship has sailed. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5557 "2016-11-30T20:26:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Tim Kaine blames gun violence for Ohio State attack: > > [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/29/tim-kaine-blames-gun-violence-ohio-state-car-and-k/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/29/tim-kaine-blames-gun-violence-ohio-state-car-and-k/) You say some stupid shit, but i never thought that you were actually as dumb as **Clothahump**. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5558 "2016-11-30T20:50:53Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You say some stupid shit, but i never thought that you were actually as dumb as **Clothahump**. Where do you think he heard about it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5559 "2016-11-30T20:53:24Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Tim Kaine blames gun violence for Ohio State attack: > > [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/29/tim-kaine-blames-gun-violence-ohio-state-car-and-k/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/29/tim-kaine-blames-gun-violence-ohio-state-car-and-k/) And if you note the time, it was while there was an **ACTIVE SHOOTER** lockdown at the campus. Maybe if people didn’t demand instant reactions from politicians, there wouldn’t be occasional flubs like that. There’s also blowing such flubs WAAAAAAAY out of proportion. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5560 "2016-11-30T21:01:20Z")
Kaine’s tweet is the dumbest liberal idea I’ve heard in 24 hours!! > [@Me](#): > > I agree that Kaine should have waited till more facts were in before assuming the attack was carried out with guns. He could have tweeted something expressing concern and so on without committing himself to much of anything. He should have thought for a minute more before taking to Twitter. > > Thank god we won’t have a guy with such a careless, shoot-from-the-hip attitude in the White House. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=277) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=279)