# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5601 "2016-12-02T22:39:59Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Tell me about it. Poor Clothahump, having to hear about what a bigoted, disgusting homophobe he is after saying gay people are an abomination. How _awful_ his lot in life must be, that he must be called to the mat for saying bigoted and homophobic things.

Maybe **Clothy** wants a safe place.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5602 "2016-12-02T23:49:00Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Tell me about it. Poor Clothahump, having to hear about what a bigoted, disgusting homophobe he is after saying gay people are an abomination. How _awful_ his lot in life must be, that he must be called to the mat for saying bigoted and homophobic things.

**Clothahump** is also the worst [Ninja](http://www.nouilles.info/illustrations/sdmb_portraits/6642.jpg) [Turtle](http://pre05.deviantart.net/fe7b/th/pre/i/2011/286/3/b/clothahump_by_macgwyver-d4clipw.jpg) ever.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5603 "2016-12-07T17:58:15Z")

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I fully understand why people would want to lobby an Electoral College elector into changing his mind, but the use of [death threats](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/308226-electoral-college-voter-gets-death-threats-over-vote) cannot possibly have any effect other than to further harden a Trump elector into voting Trump.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5604 "2016-12-07T18:08:49Z")

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One guy says he got death threats. On his phone? Easy to check. By e-mail? Also easy. By snail mail? Has anyone bothered?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5605 "2016-12-07T18:46:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> One guy says he got death threats. On his phone? Easy to check. By e-mail? Also easy. By snail mail? Has anyone bothered?

Facts are not important. We have been assured that facts do not matter anymore by the highest authorities.

What is important is that an elector FELT that he’d received death threats. His feelings are just as important as your facts.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5606 "2016-12-08T14:28:16Z")

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Be honest: do you really find it implausible that one or two nut jobs actually issued a death threat?

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5607 "2016-12-08T15:02:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Be honest: do you really find it implausible that one or two nut jobs actually issued a death threat?

I’m just gonna be over here waiting for proof and evidence. I mean, that’s what we’re supposed to wait for before we start up the outrage machine, right?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5608 "2016-12-08T15:43:29Z")

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I find it plausible that one or two nutjobs could have issued death threats. I also find it plausible that some people might lie about getting death threats to further their own agenda. I’m going to go stand next to **Chisquirrel** until something resembling evidence turns up before I decide whether this is of any concern.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5609 "2016-12-09T23:24:15Z")

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Wait, are you using **Chisquirrel** for cover?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5610 "2016-12-10T04:10:01Z")

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We knew it was coming, but Clinton wants press controls to combat “fake news”:

[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/08/hillary\_clinton\_calls\_for\_regulation\_of\_epidemic\_of\_malicious\_fake\_news\_lives\_are\_at\_risk.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/08/hillary_clinton_calls_for_regulation_of_epidemic_of_malicious_fake_news_lives_are_at_risk.html)

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5611 "2016-12-10T04:12:08Z")

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Since this is the stupid liberal ideas thread after all, it’s amazing how many things liberals see standing in their way now that are structural: gerrymandering, Citizens United, the injustice of our federalized system, and now fake news.

I guess it’s easier to complain about the rules that have existed for 225 years than to just persuade people that your policies are good.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5612 "2016-12-10T04:13:41Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> We knew it was coming, but Clinton wants press controls to combat “fake news”:
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> [Hillary Clinton Calls For Regulation Of "Malicious" Fake News; "Lives Are At Risk" | Video | RealClearPolitics](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/08/hillary_clinton_calls_for_regulation_of_epidemic_of_malicious_fake_news_lives_are_at_risk.html)

Cite that she wants “press controls”?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5613 "2016-12-10T04:14:19Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> We knew it was coming, but Clinton wants press controls to combat “fake news”:
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> [Hillary Clinton Calls For Regulation Of "Malicious" Fake News; "Lives Are At Risk" | Video | RealClearPolitics](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/08/hillary_clinton_calls_for_regulation_of_epidemic_of_malicious_fake_news_lives_are_at_risk.html)

She did not call for “press controls”, at least not in your cite.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5614 "2016-12-10T04:22:31Z")

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Bipartisan legislation to address fake news? C’mon now, don’t be dense.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5615 "2016-12-10T04:28:26Z")

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Christ, read the fucking cite.

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> Bipartisan legislation is making its way through Congress to boost the government’s response to foreign propaganda, and Silicon Valley is starting to grapple with the challenge and threat of fake news.

Don’t be disingenuous.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5616 "2016-12-10T04:35:52Z")

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Okay, so only press controls on foreign fake news?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5617 "2016-12-10T04:47:21Z")

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I can merely repeat my previous request: don’t be disingenuous.

ETA: honestly, I don’t have the strength to argue this point. Yeah, sure, press controls. Whatever. God bless.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5618 "2016-12-10T04:48:57Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I can merely repeat my previous request: don’t be disingenuous.

**adaher** isn’t smart enough to be disingenuous. He’s just that stupid.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5619 "2016-12-10T04:53:25Z")

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No, I can actually make reasonable inferences. You don’t legislate on something you don’t intend to control or decontrol. That’s what legislation is. Don’t play dumb.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5620 "2016-12-10T04:55:26Z")

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OK, so I clicked on this thread wondering what today’s stupid liberal idea was. (Now, I’ve been disappointed before with this thread failing to deliver.) So I limited my reading to just today’s posts. And you know what? Fucking nothing. Again.  
I’m going to go read about whatever dumb shit the right wing did today, those assholes know how to deliver.

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