# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 286
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5701 "2016-12-28T17:50:40Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No. But you made one where you admitted to being retarded. Please be advised, **Humpy** , that the “I know you are but what am I” response is normally not used beyond 5th grade. Or did you not make it past 5th grade? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5702 "2016-12-28T17:52:33Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Please be advised, **Humpy** , that the “I know you are but what am I” response is normally not used beyond 5th grade. > > Or did you not make it past 5th grade? Come on, don’t you remember “You’re the Puppet!” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5703 "2016-12-28T20:03:22Z")
He did say “normally”. Humpy and Trumpy are hardly normal. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5704 "2016-12-29T14:59:32Z")
Charlie Hebdo making light of the Russian Army choir plane crash seems like a stupid idea. Yes, I understand it’s what Charlie Hebdo does but I still think it’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5705 "2016-12-29T21:58:29Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Charlie Hebdo making light of the Russian Army choir plane crash seems like a stupid idea. Yes, I understand it’s what Charlie Hebdo does but I still think it’s stupid. First I heard of it. It’s not just stupid; it’s disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5706 "2016-12-29T22:09:45Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > First I heard of it. It’s not just stupid; it’s disgusting. AFAICT, they’ve made three references to the crash. The first one, not awful I guess. > [@](#): > > In one reference to the crash, which claimed 92 lives, the French magazine depicted a jet hurtling downwards along with words translated as: ‘Bad news… Putin wasn’t on board’. The other two: > [@](#): > > The satirical magazine also published a cartoon showing a choir member from the ensemble making a wailing sound ‘aaaaaa’. One caption reads: ‘The repertoire of the army choir is expanding.’ and > [@](#): > > A third image in the controversial magazine shows bodies sinking in the sea with the caption: ‘The Red Army conquers a new public.’ are just inexcusable IMO. All quotes are from [The Daily Fail.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4072724/Bad-news-Putin-wasn-t-board-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-branded-inhuman-Russia-cartoons-mocking-Black-Sea-plane-disaster.html) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5707 "2016-12-29T22:23:37Z")
Charlie Hebdo. I don’t know if they are “liberal” in the American political sense of the word, or not. If they are, then: Goddammit! French fuckin Liberals! I would say that you , Charlie Hebdo, are making American Liberals look bad, which I think is what this thread is about, but you are doing nothing of the sort, really. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5708 "2016-12-29T22:44:06Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Please be advised, **Humpy** , that the “I know you are but what am I” response is normally not used beyond 5th grade. > > Or did you not make it past 5th grade? Sigh. More retarded bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5709 "2016-12-29T22:51:32Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sigh. More retarded bullshit. That’s o.k.-Just try to do better next time. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5710 "2016-12-29T22:53:03Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Charlie Hebdo. I don’t know if they are “liberal” in the American political sense of the word, or not. If they are, then: Goddammit! French fuckin Liberals! I would say that you , Charlie Hebdo, are making American Liberals look bad, which I think is what this thread is about, but you are doing nothing of the sort, really. They are certainly leftists which makes them quite a bit more liberal than most. Since it’s not the “Stupid Democrat idea of the day” thread, I didn’t get that this thread was solely about American politics and there’s no way I’m slogging through all of it to see if that’s the case. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5711 "2016-12-29T23:05:47Z")
I got it. I get the feeling that the OP of this thread has got a problem with American Liberals, just a feeling I get, and one of the amusing things about this thread is the lack of specific examples. So now we have a French example- that’s where I was coming from. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5712 "2016-12-30T01:23:21Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I think this one is going to win the thread. Some asshole has actually written a book about murdering Donald Trump and has it up on Amazon. > > [https://www.amazon.com/Woman-Who-Killed-Donald-Trump-ebook/dp/B01MYZGL8R/ref=sr\_1\_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1482875966&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Woman+Who+Killed+Donald+Trump](https://www.amazon.com/Woman-Who-Killed-Donald-Trump-ebook/dp/B01MYZGL8R/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1482875966&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Woman+Who+Killed+Donald+Trump) > [@Procrustus](#): > > Any reason to think the author is a liberal? > [@Bayard](#): > > Who is Sam Bower? Is he a liberal? > > ETA: from the short description it looks like a terrible attempt at a thriller rather than a political novel, but I dunno. Maybe the would-be assassin is the bad guy, and Trump wrestles the gun away from him with his teeny tiny hands. Or maybe Trump strikes a deal with the assassin and pays him to kill Putin or something? > > In short, do we know anything about this book beyond the title? > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The Amazon description says Melania is the assassin, in her role as a deep-cover Communist agent. One would have to read the thing to find out what took her so long, so somebody else will have to do it. Google has nothing for this “Sam Bower” character. Maybe a pseudonym? > > Hey, **Clothy** , which of your raving-loony sites found this completely-obscure crap and got you all indignant and shit? > [@Bayard](#): > > Huh. I didn’t see that part about her being a deep cover Communist agent. Maybe I get a truncated description on the mobile version or something. Anyway, having the president be the target of Communists doesn’t sound like a particularly liberal plot. Sounds like a Cold War throwback. > [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > _“The Woman > She’s a state-sponsored killer turned stay-at-home mom.”_ > > Ah, a conservative. > > Did I miss a post where **Humpy** admitted to being retarded? So, since this book was free, and only 53 pages, I decided to take one for the team, and read it. It’s clear that the author is no fan of Trump, but there’s nothing to indicate that they’re a “liberal” either. It could have been written by any of the Republican “Never Trump” party, as the book mostly castigates Trump for his personal failings rather than any political issues. There’s even one point where one character makes a point of kind of agreeing with the voters who supported Trump because of his anti-globalization positions. It does start with a major red herring and ends with a sudden double-twist As for the identity of the killer the character described in the book description is actually not Melania but as part of the twist, it is Melania who ends up killing him. Despite that: Melania actually comes off somewhat sympathetic. Not badly written (although I understand why Trump Bull-ievers might stop reading after the first five pages or so), and would actually make a pretty good thriller movie. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5713 "2016-12-30T01:42:51Z")
Thank you for your sacrifice, \*\*Horatius \*\*! Did the writer use UK English spelling by chance? Anyway, I seriously do appreciate the effort and time you took to get the straight dope on the book. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5714 "2016-12-30T02:36:16Z")
I actually had the same idea, and it is now (partially) read and on my Kindle. Some of the characters are really quite British, and the word meager (to my American eye) is spelled “meagre.” I searched for “color” or “colour” but no luck. At one point, someone is called an asshole, not an “arsehole” though. One of the characters is Irish, so i think the suspicion of authorship may be correct. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5715 "2016-12-30T03:19:28Z")
Finished it - quick read- and yeah, I think the Irish author theory is correct. Not badly written and surprisingly enjoyable, though that’s not really my preferred genre. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5716 "2016-12-30T03:54:03Z")
I agree with raventhief that the author(s) are clearly not from the US, but I don’t know enough to say if they’re from Ireland or the UK. Being Canadian, I routinely fail to notice US/UK spellings, since I expect to see both with some regularity. Sorry![/Canuckistani] ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5717 "2016-12-30T04:55:55Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > That was my hunch as well: **Sa** rah\*\*(m)\*\* **Bow** mak **er**. But I’m not sure that the Sarossa I found is the right one. The Sarah Bowmaker listed as a writer with Sarossa is an Irish citizen, and I found a Twitter account for an Irish Sarah Bowmaker that didn’t appear to be too political. So… I dunno. > > But whoever wrote it, they are definitely a stupid liberal, amirite? And this is still the threadwinner! A 63-page book no one has noticed, written by someone no one has ever heard of. Libs suck!! > [@Horatius](#): > > I agree with raventhief that the author(s) are clearly not from the US, but I don’t know enough to say if they’re from Ireland or the UK. Being Canadian, I routinely fail to notice US/UK spellings, since I expect to see both with some regularity. Sorry![/Canuckistani] There were a few instances of UK-ish spelling and phrasing, but The fact that the hitwoman was an Irish woman, and much of the …novella (I won’t call it a book) was from her POV Is what makes me think the Irish author theory is correct. Also: THIS was the “threadwinner?” I found myself thinking that it was surprisingly well written, considering that it must have been hastily written, and despite that, remained engaging. Or must it be “stupid” because of its topic? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5718 "2016-12-30T06:20:46Z")
What the Hell happened here? Its like somebody set off a Cafe Society bomb in a pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5719 "2016-12-30T14:04:42Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > THIS was the “threadwinner?” I found myself thinking that it was surprisingly well written, considering that it must have been hastily written, and despite that, remained engaging. Or must it be “stupid” because of its topic? Yes, it’s clearly “stupid” because of the topic, plus the first five pages. Did you read the one-star reviews? Basically no one there seems to have gotten past that first scene, and I’m sure you recall its content. But beyond that, I agree it’s pretty good for something that obviously had to be written in about a month or so. > [@elucidator](#): > > What the Hell happened here? Its like somebody set off a Cafe Society bomb in a pit thread. Well, aren’t Book Reviews a “stupid liberal idea”? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5720 "2016-12-30T14:07:58Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Yes, it’s clearly “stupid” because of the topic, plus the first five pages. Did you read the one-star reviews? Basically no one there seems to have gotten past that first scene, and I’m sure you recall its content. But beyond that, I agree it’s pretty good for something that obviously had to be written in about a month or so. > > Well, aren’t Book Reviews a “stupid liberal idea”? _Literacy_ is a stupid liberal idea. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=285) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=287)