# Stupid liberal idea of the day

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5741 "2017-01-16T21:10:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> OK, why is this a stupid idea?

I guess because "fuck it, we extirpated the Jaguar from the United States since the early 20th century, so why the hell should we let them back in? They’re probably all fucking Mexican Jaguars.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5742 "2017-01-16T22:13:51Z")

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Because, wait for it, jaguars do not understand or respect national borders. Turns out they’ve been crossing back and forth, undetected, for years! Until we detected them. Are they American jaguars emigrating to Mexico? Are they Mexican jaguars immigrating to the US? Are they dual citizens because their natural range exists in both countries? Exciting questions. Exciting times.

Yeah, they’ve been here all along, but now we know it and someone’s panties are in a bunch.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5743 "2017-01-16T22:17:11Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Because, wait for it, jaguars do not understand or respect national borders. Turns out they’ve been crossing back and forth, undetected, for years! Until we detected them. Are they American jaguars emigrating to Mexico? Are they Mexican jaguars immigrating to the US? Are they dual citizens because their natural range exists in both countries? Exciting questions. Exciting times.
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> Yeah, they’ve been here all along, but now we know it and someone’s panties are in a bunch.

Speak to me in words of one syllable, please. I’m not seeing the outrage here.,

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5744 "2017-01-16T22:23:51Z")

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I still don’t understand what’s a stupid liberal idea about saving endangered animals.

If anything, putting up a wall to stop natural animal migrations is a stupid Republican idea.

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**Author:** ![RadioWave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RadioWave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadioWave)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5745 "2017-01-16T22:25:31Z")

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I demand we build a wall and make the Jaguars pay for it.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5746 "2017-01-16T22:50:03Z")

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Well, I’m Liberal. _stops and waits for shocked exclamations_ This means I don’t entirely understand the outrage over saving endangered animals. Sometimes, sure. That spotted moth that only exists in that one meadow. Too bad, so sad. I’m not throwing myself on the grenade. By and large, I’m in favor of saving endangered species though. I also didn’t post it to the thread, so I’m not entirely certain why it’s here, other than I maybe saving endangered animals is always a Liberal thing. Maybe?

In this case, if I remember correctly there are a few issues:

The jaguars cross onto ranch lands. Some ranchers would prefer that they did not. If the jaguars are protected, the ranchers have put up with jaguars. All, what is it, 150 or so? (On the other hand, if I remember correctly, if ranchers lose livestock to a protected species, I believe the government just pays them for the animal.)

The jaguars are crossing over the US-Mexico border. _waits again for exploding heads_ The border that will supposedly be impermeable. How do we accommodate this? The “Liberals” AKA wildlife experts would argue that the best solution is the let them continue to use their entire range, which would mean leaving part of the border permeable in some fashion.

To make that simpler, the jaguars are a threat to our US-Mexican border and to ranchers.

My take on it is that since we spent decades without even knowing they were there, we can probably just keep on ignoring them. But what do I know.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5747 "2017-01-16T22:56:55Z")

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And this is the “best” stupid liberal idea that anyone can come up with? Or was that the shitty self-published book by some unknown Irish guy? Wasn’t that one supposed to blow all our minds?

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5748 "2017-01-16T23:42:59Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And this is the “best” stupid liberal idea that anyone can come up with? Or was that the shitty self-published book by some unknown Irish guy? Wasn’t that one supposed to blow all our minds?

Hey, it wasn’t great literature, but I wouldn’t call it “shitty”!

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5749 "2017-01-17T00:07:57Z")

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Really, we’re 5700 posts into this and the “Best” shitty liberal ideas are “saving jaguars” and “a bad/good Irish novella”? Humpy’s not trying very hard here.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5750 "2017-01-17T00:13:45Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Really, we’re 5700 posts into this and the “Best” shitty liberal ideas are “saving jaguars” and “a bad/good Irish novella”? Humpy’s not trying very hard here.

We could try writing a story about one of the Mexican Jaguars eating Trump alive at the ribbon cutting ceremony for the Wall.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5751 "2017-01-17T06:04:37Z")

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Start a GoFundMe. I’ll chip in. 😉

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5752 "2017-01-22T05:09:18Z")

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SNL writer goes after Barron Trump [with stupid jokes.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/snl-writer-deletes-tweet-saying-barron-trump-will-be-americas-first-homeschool-shooter/)  
Despite lurid headlines on righty sites, as far as I can tell, she’s the only “prominent” person doing this. The rest appear to be (I don’t keep up with celebrities so they may be known to others) Random Internet Assholes.

The President’s minor children are always “keep the fucking hands off”. The kid looks miserable enough without this shit.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5753 "2017-01-22T05:23:11Z")

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There’s a twitter account I follow called The Dope that was reporting stupid Barron jokes. I told them it was inappropriate.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5754 "2017-01-22T05:24:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> SNL writer goes after Barron Trump [with stupid jokes.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/snl-writer-deletes-tweet-saying-barron-trump-will-be-americas-first-homeschool-shooter/)  
> Despite lurid headlines on righty sites, as far as I can tell, she’s the only “prominent” person doing this. The rest appear to be (I don’t keep up with celebrities so they may be known to others) Random Internet Assholes.
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> The President’s minor children are always “keep the fucking hands off”. The kid looks miserable enough without this shit.

I agree Rich’s tweet was horrible, and that politicians’ minor children should always be off limits.

Rich has apparently deleted her Twitter account and taken down her website. I had never heard of her before tonight. Is she a liberal?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5755 "2017-01-22T05:27:29Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I agree Rich’s tweet was horrible, and that politicians’ minor children should always be off limits.
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> Rich has apparently deleted her Twitter account and taken down her website. I had never heard of her before tonight. Is she a liberal?

I understand the staff and writers tend left on SNL. I figured it would be more likely this thread than the Republican one for this topic.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5756 "2017-01-22T05:36:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> SNL writer goes after Barron Trump [with stupid jokes.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/snl-writer-deletes-tweet-saying-barron-trump-will-be-americas-first-homeschool-shooter/)  
> Despite lurid headlines on righty sites, as far as I can tell, she’s the only “prominent” person doing this. The rest appear to be (I don’t keep up with celebrities so they may be known to others) Random Internet Assholes.
> 
> The President’s minor children are always “keep the fucking hands off”. The kid looks miserable enough without this shit.

As usual, [conservatives lower the bar](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/12/01/elizabeth-lauten-nbc-obama-girls/19730421/) of what’s[acceptable](http://www.diversityinc.com/news/malia-obama-fox-news/), and cry the loudest when they get a taste.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5757 "2017-01-22T05:38:40Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I understand the staff and writers tend left on SNL. I figured it would be more likely this thread than the Republican one for this topic.

Fair enough. I wasn’t trying to be overly argumentative. I would also assume it’s more likely than not that she leans left. But until her politics are known, I don’t want our team to take the penalty if we don’t have to 🙂

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5758 "2017-01-22T05:49:32Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Fair enough. I wasn’t trying to be overly argumentative. I would also assume it’s more likely than not that she leans left. But until her politics are known, I don’t want our team to take the penalty if we don’t have to 🙂

The story is also all over the Rightosphere, I would think they are aware of her (possible) liberal values.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5759 "2017-01-22T06:05:12Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> The story is also all over the Rightosphere, I would think they are aware of her (possible) liberal values.

I’m sure as hell not taking their word for it. 😉

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5760 "2017-01-22T06:09:15Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> As usual, [conservatives lower the bar](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/12/01/elizabeth-lauten-nbc-obama-girls/19730421/) of what’s[acceptable](http://www.diversityinc.com/news/malia-obama-fox-news/), and cry the loudest when they get a taste.

And, going back a bit, Rush Limbaugh famously referred to then 12-year-old Chelsea Clinton as the White House dog.

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