# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 317
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6321 "2017-10-03T16:01:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I still don’t think she shoud have been fired, but I am starting to notice that a tactic beloved more by the left than the right has been more likely to hurt liberals than conservatives. This firing helps liberals. Firing idiot liberals for saying idiotic things helps liberals and liberalism in general by demonstrating the consequences for violating standards of behavior. Not firing her would have hurt liberals and liberalism, since it would have helped normalize idiocy from liberals. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6322 "2017-10-03T16:04:20Z")
That’s also true, but I still think it’s a poisonous custom. And the ones who get fired are more likely to be liberal, plus historically it’s been used more against liberals as well. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6323 "2017-10-03T16:17:13Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s also true, but I still think it’s a poisonous custom. And the ones who get fired are more likely to be liberal, plus historically it’s been used more against liberals as well. This is because liberals are more likely to have actual principles and exclude hateful people from our ranks. Conservatives, on the other hand, happily embrace hateful and dangerous people. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6324 "2017-10-03T17:15:32Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s also true, but I still think it’s a poisonous custom. And the ones who get fired are more likely to be liberal, plus historically it’s been used more against liberals as well. The alternative to firing people who show lack of character, honest, and integrity, is ending up with a network like fox news. I’d rather see a few liberals suffer for being stupid than see progressivism suffer for following int he footsteps of the reactionary right. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6325 "2017-10-03T21:56:46Z")
Does she lack character, honesty, or integrity, or did she just say something intemperate that she didn’t really mean? By now I guess everyone has to realize that the line she crossed is a firing offense. This is literally happening after every tragedy and disaster now. I can’t imagine that anyone on social media doesn’t know that a post saying, “I don’t feel sorry for these people because they voted Republican” is a career ender. So although I hate the practice of firing people for social media posts, I’m starting to wonder why these social media posts are still happening. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6326 "2017-10-03T22:10:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Does she lack character, honesty, or integrity, or did she just say something intemperate that she didn’t really mean? By now I guess everyone has to realize that the line she crossed is a firing offense. This is literally happening after every tragedy and disaster now. I can’t imagine that anyone on social media doesn’t know that a post saying, “I don’t feel sorry for these people because they voted Republican” is a career ender. So although I hate the practice of firing people for social media posts, I’m starting to wonder why these social media posts are still happening. Both stupidity and momentary stupidity are available to all, and show no sign of going away. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6327 "2017-10-03T23:11:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Does she lack character, honesty, or integrity, or did she just say something intemperate that she didn’t really mean? Is she going to post a thread several years down the line announcing reconsideration of her former views? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6328 "2017-10-03T23:14:34Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Does she lack character, honesty, or integrity, or did she just say something intemperate that she didn’t really mean? By now I guess everyone has to realize that the line she crossed is a firing offense. This is literally happening after every tragedy and disaster now. I can’t imagine that anyone on social media doesn’t know that a post saying, “I don’t feel sorry for these people because they voted Republican” is a career ender. So although I hate the practice of firing people for social media posts, I’m starting to wonder why these social media posts are still happening. Because most employers probably don’t check all their employees’ twitter feeds. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6329 "2017-10-04T01:13:41Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > This is because liberals are more likely to have actual principles and exclude hateful people from our ranks. Conservatives, on the other hand, happily embrace hateful and dangerous people. Wow. What a steaming pile of bullshit that statement was. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6330 "2017-10-04T01:19:12Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. What a steaming pile of bullshit that statement was. Translation from the original conservaspeak: “Nuh uh, am not!” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6331 "2017-10-04T01:25:09Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. What a steaming pile of bullshit that statement was. Let’s see that picture you took of a random woman from a block away and tell us the triggering thing she said to you. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6332 "2017-10-04T01:26:15Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. What a steaming pile of bullshit that statement was. I should have qualified my original statement. Some neo Nazis _are_ very fine people. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6333 "2017-10-04T01:28:28Z")
The Democratic Party’s two most famous women are both now on record basically saying that women who vote Republican do so because they are told to by their husbands. > **[Michelle Obama: ‘Any woman who voted against Clinton voted against their own...](https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/michelle-obama-women-voters/index.html)** > > Former first lady Michelle Obama asserted that women who voted for President Donald Trump went against their “authentic voice.” > [@](#): > > What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he’s better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don’t like your voice. You like the thing you’re told to like."p. Now granted, Obama wasn’t as direct about it as Clinton, and it’s plausible that maybe she was talking about the media? Condescending either way. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6334 "2017-10-04T01:52:01Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. What a steaming pile of bullshit that statement was. I have to agree with this. A “conservative” is someone like Jimmy Carter, David Brinkley or George H. W. Bush, who actually do have principles. These critters that inhabit Newscorp and the Republican Party are a completely different thing. Conservatives should not be tarred with this brush. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6335 "2017-10-05T19:11:59Z")
I’ve noticed that liberals often get a pass for their personal sins as long as they support the right causes. But usually they have enough class not to actually ask for a dispensation. Harvey Weinstein is actually that classless: > **[Harvey Weinstein Paid Off Sexual Harassment Accusers for Decades (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html?_r=1)** > > An investigation by The New York Times found allegations stretching back to 1990 about Mr. Weinstein’s treatment of women in Hollywood. “Hey, I’m doing an anti-Trump film, I’m fighting the NRA, I’m going to name some good cause after my mother or something!” > **[Statement From Harvey Weinstein (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/us/statement-from-harvey-weinstein.html)** > > The New York Times received the following statement from Harvey Weinstein responding to allegations about his treatment of women in Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6336 "2017-10-05T19:17:55Z")
Where did you see that part? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6337 "2017-10-05T19:19:57Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I’ve noticed that liberals often get a pass for their personal sins as long as they support the right causes. But usually they have enough class not to actually ask for a dispensation. Harvey Weinstein is actually that classless: > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html?\_r=1](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html?_r=1) > > “Hey, I’m doing an anti-Trump film, I’m fighting the NRA, I’m going to name some good cause after my mother or something!” > > [Statement From Harvey Weinstein - The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/us/statement-from-harvey-weinstein.html) We gave him a pass? On that story that appeared _just today_? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6338 "2017-10-05T19:22:08Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > We gave him a pass? On that story that appeared _just today_? Well, you probably will. Because reasons. So there. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6339 "2017-10-05T19:22:59Z")
Not saying he has gotten a pass, just pointing out that he seems to think he’s entitled to one because he’s on the side of the angels politically. Lisa Bloom sure seems to think he should get a pass, she’s going to defend him in court against his accusers. Supposedly she’s a famous feminist. Except Weinstein optioned her book into a miniseries and he pays well. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6340 "2017-10-05T19:23:21Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The Democratic Party’s two most famous women are both now on record basically saying that women who vote Republican do so because they are told to by their husbands. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/michelle-obama-women-voters/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/michelle-obama-women-voters/index.html) > > Now granted, Obama wasn’t as direct about it as Clinton, and it’s plausible that maybe she was talking about the media? Condescending either way. Maybe you have a cite? Because what you linked didn’t even come close to saying that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=316) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=318)