# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 318
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6341 "2017-10-05T19:25:02Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Not saying he has gotten a pass, > [@](#): > > I’ve noticed that liberals often get a pass for their personal sins Not that _HE_ got a pass, but that _liberals_ often get a pass…_like this guy_… ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6342 "2017-10-05T19:52:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Not saying he has gotten a pass, just pointing out that he seems to think he’s entitled to one because he’s on the side of the angels politically Again, where did you get that? He does seem to think he’s entitled to grab pussies _based on power inequality_, but surely you understand how \*that \*works. Where was there any mention of his politics or his studio’s? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6343 "2017-10-05T23:11:21Z")
Ahh, another chorus of “liberal hypocrisy”. So FRESH! So NEW! ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6344 "2017-10-06T00:26:39Z")
Weinstein is taking a “leave of absence” from his studio and at least one Democratic Senator (Leahy) has already said he’ll donate the amount of Weinstein’s campaign contribution to a charity. Let’s see how it goes. Will liberals circle the wagons around him or distance themselves from him? I’m hoping, and betting, on the latter. I haven’t followed the story closely yet. If the allegations are true (and my money is on “yes”), then I hope Weinstein is punished to the full extent of the law and run out of Hollywood on a rail. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6345 "2017-10-06T00:41:05Z")
I’m not aware of any “liberals” who support powerful men who prey on women. And I don’t count Bill Clinton in that company, he was only a horndog who boinked compliant ladies. Like Warren G. Harding. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6346 "2017-10-06T00:47:50Z")
It is worth noting that Weinstein’s statement takes the form of an apology. A less that perfect expression of remorse, as it includes excuses, but he is nonetheless remorseful. This is a behavior that tends to appear more on the left than on the right. Those rightward often show little indication that they recognize that they did anything wrong. Generally speaking. There are, obviously exceptions on both sides. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6347 "2017-10-06T01:06:17Z")
Emphasis mine: > [@eschereal](#): > > A less that perfect expression of remorse, as it includes excuses, but **he is nonetheless remorseful**. It remains unclear whether he is remorseful for his actions or remorseful for getting caught. He’s apparently been doing this for decades and only now that the article is out are we seeing even a minuscule mea culpa. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6348 "2017-10-06T02:35:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Lisa Bloom sure seems to think he should get a pass, she’s going to defend him in court against his accusers. So, he doesn’t deserve a legal defense because he’s a liberal? You have some pretty un-American opinions. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6349 "2017-10-06T02:36:10Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > Emphasis mine: > It remains unclear whether he is remorseful for his actions or remorseful for getting caught. He’s apparently been doing this for decades and only now that the article is out are we seeing even a minuscule mea culpa. Well, uh, maybe he didn’t realize the naughtiness of his actions before if no-one was complaining to his face, you know. Just fun and games, chicks playing hard to get and stuff. And now his eyes are opened and he suffers horribly for anxiety he has caused. I’m sure deep down he’s a good, fine lad. And he’s against Trump, so he can’t be all that bad. He probably even disapproved Trump’s grabbing comments. The man is a saint, he even has a beard just like Jesus. And oh, yes, adaher’s a moron. What’s the liberal idea again ? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6350 "2017-10-06T08:50:47Z")
Maybe I’m unduly cynical, but I would have been shocked to learn that a long-time and highly influential Hollywood producer _wasn’t_ an amoral sleazebag using his influence to coerce (or worse) young women into sex. So well done to the woman who finally succeeded in breaking the dam. Apologies for abstaining from the wagon-circling exercise **adaher** was apparently hoping for. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6351 "2017-10-06T12:03:44Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > So, he doesn’t deserve a legal defense because he’s a liberal? You have some pretty un-American opinions. No, he just shouldn’t be defended by Lisa Bloom given that she’s only doing it because he’s done her favors. Her mother, Gloria Allred, actually did say she doesn’t represent men accused of sexual harassment, which is also wrong. But my issue with Bloom is mainly hypocrisy. She was all over the O’Reilly case. But Weinstein, he’s just an old dinosaur who is trying to be better. Maybe so, but he has a long way to go. I’d say that what he did goes beyond mere sexual harassment. We should have a category in between sexual harassment and rape, a term for trying to intimidate women into having sex with you. Because that’s not “dinosaur” behavior, that was wrong when he was young. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6352 "2017-10-06T12:19:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Maybe I’m unduly cynical, but I would have been shocked to learn that a long-time and highly influential Hollywood producer _wasn’t_ an amoral sleazebag using his influence to coerce (or worse) young women into sex. So well done to the woman who finally succeeded in breaking the dam. > > Apologies for abstaining from the wagon-circling exercise **adaher** was apparently hoping for. But Lisa Bloom is circling the wagons! Well, wagon, I guess. Like that gag in _Blazing Saddles_ with the one wagon running around. See! Liberal hypocrisy! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6353 "2017-10-06T12:25:12Z")
Uh oh, he’s invoked the “right wing conspiracy”! > **[Harvey Weinstein: 'right wing conspiracy' revealed sex shame](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4953450/amp/Harvey-Weinstein-right-wing-conspiracy-sex-shame.html)** > > Harvey Weinstein believes the allegations of inappropriate sexual behaviour against him are part of a right-wing 'conspiracy' to take him down, DailyMail.com can reveal. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6354 "2017-10-06T12:36:22Z")
Let me get this straight. You really expect Libtards running to defend a white, straight, rich, middle-aged, obese, balding MALE who has offended FEMALES ( some of them might even be African-American ) ? Seriously ? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6355 "2017-10-06T12:36:38Z")
OK, he’s a scumbag, and the gossip sites are having a field day, just like Trump’s “Grab 'em by the pussy.” I’d love to see him stripped from influence and locked up, but at worst he’ll wind up in Club Fed and write a book and appear on Oprah when he gets out. He’ll find a way to profit from the controversy, and he’ll certainly be qualified to run for president. That’s America for you! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6356 "2017-10-06T12:47:35Z")
I don’t expect him to be defended. My post was about how HE seems to expect it. And now he’s invoking the “right wing conspiracy”, which is a proven way to rally the left around you. Except he’s expendable. He’s not even the only important Weinstein in Hollywood. It’s like losing a Baldwin. We’ve got more. I don’t expect him to go to jail or be stripped of influence either. Nothing about this case should prevent him from working at his profession. Unlike say, Woody Allen, he’s coming clean and trying to change. If he doesn’t, then studios can stop working with him if he acts up while working on their projects. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6357 "2017-10-06T13:02:36Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > No, he just shouldn’t be defended by Lisa Bloom given that she’s only doing it because he’s done her favors… Who the fuck are you to decide which lawyers he gets to use? And who the fuck are you to tell his lawyer why she’s representing him? If you’re a mind reader tell me what I think about this un-American bullshit you’re spouting. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6358 "2017-10-06T13:03:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I don’t expect him to be defended. My post was about how HE seems to expect it. And now he’s invoking the “right wing conspiracy”, which is a proven way to rally the left around you. Oh, sorry then, I must have misread this somehow: > [@adaher](#): > > I’ve noticed that liberals often get a pass for their personal sins as long as they support the right causes. But usually they have enough class not to actually ask for a dispensation. Harvey Weinstein is actually that classless: ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6359 "2017-10-06T13:15:13Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Uh oh, he’s invoked the “right wing conspiracy”! > > [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4953450/amp/Harvey-Weinstein-right-wing-conspiracy-sex-shame.html](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4953450/amp/Harvey-Weinstein-right-wing-conspiracy-sex-shame.html) While I wouldn’t put it past him to do so, it’s worth noting that this assertion is based on one anonymous source speaking to a heavily-biased right-wing tabloid with a long history of misrepresenting facts and blatantly making things up. I’d like a little more corroboration from reliable sources before I accept this as true. Of course, I’d also like **adaher** to accurately represent the facts of the matter before attempting to extrapolate wildly from them. And I’d like a pony. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6360 "2017-10-06T13:45:41Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I don’t expect him to be defended. My post was about how HE seems to expect it. And now he’s invoking the “right wing conspiracy”, which is a proven way to rally the left around you. Except he’s expendable. He’s not even the only important Weinstein in Hollywood. It’s like losing a Baldwin. We’ve got more. > > I don’t expect him to go to jail or be stripped of influence either. Nothing about this case should prevent him from working at his profession. Unlike say, Woody Allen, he’s coming clean and trying to change. If he doesn’t, then studios can stop working with him if he acts up while working on their projects. You started off saying that liberals get a pass for their sins and you criticized Bloom for defending him. When no one in this thread rushed to Weinstein’s defense, you backed down to saying that you didn’t expect anyone to defend him and you don’t even want him to be prevented from working in his profession – the very profession that he has exploited to harass attractive young women. Pretty much everyone in this thread is calling for him to suffer consequences for being a serial sexual harasser. _You’re_ currently the only one defending him here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=317) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=319)