# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 320
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6381 "2017-10-06T20:29:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The other day, I was out mowing my lawn, when some red-faced guy came striding up to me. He was shouting something, so I had to turn the mower off to hear him. > > Trying to understand him though all the spittle flying about, it became apparent that he thought I was the gardener, rather than the owner of the house, and therefor, he knew that I must be “Mexican”, or as he put it, “Mex-can”. > > He was hilarious with his sputtering and fuming that I should “go back to Mexerico” and that I was “taking jobs from good white people”. > > I finally got fed up, and told him that I owned this house and to just shut up and move along before he embarrassed himself more. He got more furious, and shouted something about how he taught some kind of martial art, and was going to kick my “Mex-can” ass. He then tried some kind of leg-sweep thing, and promptly fell on his ass. His MAGA hat fell off and rolled into the gutter. I just about bust a gut laughing at this poor idiot lying on the ground. > > If you want proof that this happened, I’d be happy to send you a blurry picture taken with my phone. Whatever did happen to **Ducati**? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6382 "2017-10-06T20:39:09Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Whatever did happen to **Ducati**? He was done. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6383 "2017-10-07T19:13:10Z")
At least two posters on this message board think that public nudity should be a civil right. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=838250](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=838250) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6384 "2017-10-07T19:20:32Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > At least two posters on this message board think that public nudity should be a civil right. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=838250](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=838250) Just because no one wants to see _you_ naked… ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6385 "2017-10-07T19:50:08Z")
How the fuck is “nudity” a stupid liberal idea. I came to this thread late, but I’m guessing it’s hundreds of posts of you and your ilk decrying anything you don’t like or that annoys you as a “stupid liberal idea” and thousands of posts pointing out how stupid you sound. Maybe we can get the thread title changed: _Stupid Conservatives Call Things They Don’t Like Stupid Liberal Ideas_. Are there actually any stupid liberal ideas somewhere in the thread? There are stupid liberal ideas, but has anyone actually brought one up? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6386 "2017-10-07T20:07:15Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Are there actually any stupid liberal ideas somewhere in the thread? There are stupid liberal ideas, but has anyone actually brought one up? There have been a few. Mostly not any that **Humpy** has posted (99% of which turn out to either not be liberal or not be stupid when the full context is revealed) and the few that exist have mostly been posted by liberals themselves, but there are some. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6387 "2017-10-07T20:19:39Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > How the fuck is “nudity” a stupid liberal idea. I came to this thread late, but I’m guessing it’s hundreds of posts of you and your ilk decrying anything you don’t like or that annoys you as a “stupid liberal idea” and thousands of posts pointing out how stupid you sound. Maybe we can get the thread title changed: _Stupid Conservatives Call Things They Don’t Like Stupid Liberal Ideas_. > > Are there actually any stupid liberal ideas somewhere in the thread? There are stupid liberal ideas, but has anyone actually brought one up? There’s several legitimate Stupid Liberal Ideas. Almost all posted by a resident liberal. Our resident Conservatives seem uninterested in posting here. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6388 "2017-10-07T20:28:39Z")
Over in the SRIOTD, there are thousands of posts about politicians and major media figures: people who actually have power and influence. But when Clothahump and others drop in here, they more often post about some incredibly minor thing done by some rando or some adolescent in a little liberal arts college. It’s like: Bob Menendez? Never heard of him. Some anonymous Irishman writes a book about Trump? This Means War!! Way to keep your eyes on the ball guys. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6389 "2017-10-07T21:19:18Z")
Lisa Bloom has resigned as Harvey Weinstein’s attorney. By my count, the last remaining person on Earth who wants Weinstein to keep his job is now **adaher**. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6390 "2017-10-07T22:14:58Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > How the fuck is “nudity” a stupid liberal idea. Claiming that public nudity is a civil right is beyond stupid. It makes a mockery of those who have fought hard (and sometimes died) for _actual_ civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6391 "2017-10-07T22:23:19Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Claiming that public nudity is a civil right is beyond stupid. It makes a mockery of those who have fought hard (and sometimes died) for _actual_ civil rights. Nobody said it was a major concern. Explain why it’s can’t be a civil right. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6392 "2017-10-07T22:31:46Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Nobody said it was a major concern. Explain why it’s can’t be a civil right. Explain why it should be. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6393 "2017-10-07T22:39:20Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Explain why it should be. First, read the thread. It was posed as a hypothetical as a “what if this was done”? There’s little there about civil rights. Second, you believe it shouldn’t be a civil right. You made the claim, you back it up. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6394 "2017-10-07T22:53:21Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Over in the SRIOTD, there are thousands of posts about politicians and major media figures: people who actually have power and influence. But when Clothahump and others drop in here, they more often post about some incredibly minor thing done by some rando or some adolescent in a little liberal arts college. It’s like: Bob Menendez? Never heard of him. Some anonymous Irishman writes a book about Trump? This Means War!! Way to keep your eyes on the ball guys. The guiding principle for guys like **Clothahump** is false equivalency. It helps to make up for the staggering imbalance in actual stupid ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6395 "2017-10-07T23:15:10Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Nobody said it was a major concern. Explain why it’s can’t be a civil right. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Explain why it should be. Because I don’t think the government should be able to tell me what to wear. Or not to wear. There are plenty of countries in the world where you can get punished for wearing a tee-shirt supporting the wrong candidate or idea. Lots of places where a woman not wearing a veil will get acid thrown on her face. I don’t want that in the USA. There are already plenty of sensible regulations requiring sanitary/safety clothing for specific occupations, like food service workers, or hard hats for construction workers, or rubber gloves for surgeons. Those would still apply even if nudity was allowed. And the laws about lewd conduct would still apply to ‘perving’ in public. (Their physical reaction might make it even easier to show that he wasn’t just accidentally brushing against you in a crowded bus.) Personally, I wouldn’t be nude – because I’m old & fat & out-of-shape (and here in Minnesota, for about 2/3rds of the year it would be too dang cold). And I’d probably look away quickly from a lot of people if they were nude. But they should have the right to wear whatever they want, even nothing. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6396 "2017-10-07T23:44:08Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > And the laws about lewd conduct would still apply to ‘perving’ in public. (Their physical reaction might make it even easier to show that he wasn’t just accidentally brushing against you in a crowded bus.) NYC has an annual topless parade. It’s debatable whether there are more topless parade marchers or pathetic men with cell phones to photograph them for…reasons. Someone should photograph the guys photographing the women, cross-reference them on all the dating sites and mark the profiles “UNDATEABLE”. **D’Anconia** , you still didn’t explain why it is a _liberal idea_. It’s just something you don’t like - doesn’t make it liberal. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6397 "2017-10-08T00:14:24Z")
The Fairness Doctrine has often been regarded as a Stupid Liberal Idea by conservatives. And the latest pusher of this idea (OK, not the exact idea, but close enough) is none other than [Donald J. Trump](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/916634286811435008), who is demanding Equal Time on the late-night comedy shows. This is actually a great idea! I’m looking forward to Dems getting equal time on Fox News and on right-wing talk radio. That’s gonna be _so_ cool. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6398 "2017-10-08T00:55:09Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Claiming that public nudity is a civil right is beyond stupid. It makes a mockery of those who have fought hard (and sometimes died) for _actual_ civil rights. That thread was nowhere as serious as you made it out to be. They were just being silly. Besides, even if they were serious, it’s just some anonymous faces on the internet who can’t make their thoughts into law and lack the influence to do so. Why are you so afraid of them? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6399 "2017-10-08T02:37:13Z")
I have to say that, as much of a jerk as Weinstein has been, those on the right have zero traction on sexual issues. It is the pinnacle of hypocritical double standards when you look at the vile scum that they have thrown their support behind. I am all for criticizing misogynists and grabby pervs, but you simply cannot make it a political/ideological issue. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6400 "2017-10-08T03:16:21Z")
I agree. But on the other hand, it highlights liberal hypocrisy. Support for women in large groups, but covering for men who victimize them individually. We see the same thing with racial discrimination. Our national debate is becoming religious in nature. Everyone wags their finger but doesn’t change their personal behavior. We even have dispensations now! Fly in a private jet, plant a tree, you’re good! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=319) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=321)