# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6401 "2017-10-08T03:26:06Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> The part about the cord didn’t even occur to you until we pointed it out. Trying to turn it back into liberal absurdity that only YOU witnessed isn’t helping your credibility. How is it liberal stupidity not to believe such obvious bullshit? \*\*k9friender \*\*was able to recreate your testimony with a couple of stock photos. You can’t find enough examples of liberal stupidity in real life so you have to make them up.

Until you guys pointed it out? That’s a flat fucking lie. Sad thing is, you knew it was a lie when you put it up.

Here’s my original post (6102):

> [@Me](#):
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> Okay, I just might have won my own thread.
> 
> I’m kind of old-fashioned. I actually like to mow my own lawn. And given the weather issues lately, it hasn’t been mown for a while and the grass had gotten rather long.
> 
> So I’m out there this morning, mowing away. I stop to dump the grass catcher bag when I was confronted by a woman who was out jogging and who crossed the street to berate me. Why, you might ask? Well, according to her, I’m polluting the living hell out of the environment with the fumes from my lawnmower. She went on and on about how she could smell it and how she didn’t appreciated having to breathe the fumes and what an “insensitive jerk” I was to the needs of the planet and the people around me, and more typical liberal treehugger BS.
> 
> I started laughing at her and couldn’t stop. She got even more upset, to the point where she yelled, and I quote: “It’s not funny, you sorry asshole. You’re killing other people and you don’t even care!”
> 
> Here’s her offended little ass jogging away from me. I’m just sorry that I don’t have a video of her tirade to share, but I couldn’t get to the phone quick enough.
> 
> Now, the reason I say I win is that stupidity of this magnitude can only be marveled at. You just can’t make up stuff like this; all you can do is cherish it for the absolute moronic stupidity that it is.
> 
> **All the while that she was yelling at me about polluting the world and killing people, this is what she was looking at.**

Now read that until you comprehend it. Especially the last sentence, you ignorant asshole, which I have highlighted for you because you are apparently too damn stupid to have seen it the first time.

Now go look at[the picture](https://i.imgur.com/xZQXNxc.jpg) again.  
The whole point of my post was that she was looking at the extension cord, but running her mouth anyway. But that sailed right over your pointed little head, because you didn’t want to believe my story.

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> As much as you double-down and disseminate, run away and hide whenever proof is demanded of your claims, I bet your students (if they even exist) get their asses kicked at all the Tae Kwon Do tournaments.

You know, I cleared my ignore list a while back. I’m putting you back on it. I really don’t need to listen to you lie about me. I damn sure don’t need to listen to you lie about my students. For the record, you gutless coward, my school has turned out four world champions and one silver medalist, six district champions, and seventeen state champions. You owe my students (and me) an apology. But it will never appear because you haven’t the integrity to make one.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6402 "2017-10-08T03:27:58Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I agree. But on the other hand, it highlights liberal hypocrisy. Support for women in large groups, but covering for men who victimize them individually. We see the same thing with racial discrimination.

Who is doing this?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6403 "2017-10-08T03:36:44Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Until you guys pointed it out? That’s a flat fucking lie. Sad thing is, you knew it was a lie when you put it up.
> 
> Here’s my original post (6102):  
> Now read that until you comprehend it. Especially the last sentence, you ignorant asshole, which I have highlighted for you because you are apparently too damn stupid to have seen it the first time.
> 
> Now go look at[the picture](https://i.imgur.com/xZQXNxc.jpg) again.  
> The whole point of my post was that she was looking at the extension cord, but running her mouth anyway. But that sailed right over your pointed little head, because you didn’t want to believe my story.  
> You know, I cleared my ignore list a while back. I’m putting you back on it. I really don’t need to listen to you lie about me. I damn sure don’t need to listen to you lie about my students. For the record, you gutless coward, **my school has turned out four world champions and one silver medalist, six district champions, and seventeen state champions.** You owe my students (and me) an apology. But it will never appear because you haven’t the integrity to make one.

Within the ATA? Or is this in open competition?  
Why should we believe that a picture of someone’s back from a block away supports your account?  
Like I said, you would have lost no opportunity to humiliate a libtard.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6404 "2017-10-08T03:38:30Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I agree. But on the other hand, it highlights liberal hypocrisy. Support for women in large groups, but covering for men who victimize them individually. We see the same thing with racial discrimination.
> 
> Our national debate is becoming religious in nature. Everyone wags their finger but doesn’t change their personal behavior. We even have dispensations now! Fly in a private jet, plant a tree, you’re good!

I can’t square this with your earlier statement that you don’t want Weinstein to be fired either. I have no idea who knew what about his behavior before this week, but now that it’s out in the open, people are running from him. Almost everyone in this thread is criticizing him. But I can’t pin down your view of him and what should be done about him. Help me out.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6405 "2017-10-08T03:42:59Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> There’s little there about civil rights.
> 
> Second, you believe it shouldn’t be a civil right. You made the claim, you back it up.

No, jerk. At least two posters (now three) have made the claim that it should be a civil right. It’s up to THEM to back up their claim.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6406 "2017-10-08T03:44:48Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> **D’Anconia** , you still didn’t explain why it is a _liberal idea_. It’s just something you don’t like - doesn’t make it liberal.

The posters who have posited the idea are hardly conservatives.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6407 "2017-10-08T03:55:20Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> No, jerk. At least two posters (now three) have made the claim that it should be a civil right. It’s up to THEM to back up their claim.

**Trinopus** said it should be, \*\*Ascenray \*\* said he’s in favor.  
However, there was no actual discussion over whether it should be or not. At any rate, that wasn’t the core of the thread.  
It was purely a “what if this happened?”  
Let me quote the first line of [the OP.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=838250)

> [@](#):
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> Let’s say in a fit of insanity, the United States makes the entire country “Clothing Optional”

Who’s the third?

I never made a claim one way or another, you’re the one spouting off about it.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6408 "2017-10-08T04:01:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Who’s the third?

Post #6395. Do you actually read before you post?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6409 "2017-10-08T04:05:20Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Post #6395. Do you actually read before you post?

I was reading the thread in question.  
Go argue with the ones claiming it should be a right.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6410 "2017-10-08T04:38:44Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Until you guys pointed it out? That’s a flat fucking lie. Sad thing is, you knew it was a lie when you put it up.
> 
> Here’s my original post (6102):  
> Now read that until you comprehend it. Especially the last sentence, you ignorant asshole, which I have highlighted for you because you are apparently too damn stupid to have seen it the first time.
> 
> Now go look at[the picture](https://i.imgur.com/xZQXNxc.jpg) again.  
> The whole point of my post was that she was looking at the extension cord, but running her mouth anyway. But that sailed right over your pointed little head, because you didn’t want to believe my story.

You didn’t say anything about the cord in your post. You didn’t say “She never noticed my mower was electric.” That would have been really really important to point out. You didn’t because you made the fucking story up. Any child can see that.

> [@](#):
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> You know, I cleared my ignore list a while back. I’m putting you back on it. I really don’t need to listen to you lie about me. I damn sure don’t need to listen to you lie about my students. For the record, you gutless coward, my school has turned out four world champions and one silver medalist, six district champions, and seventeen state champions. You owe my students (and me) an apology. But it will never appear because you haven’t the integrity to make one.

Oh? Did you personally teach them all? You keep thinking all you have to do is make any claim without offering any proof and a message board full of skeptics will believe anything you say. If I were to apologize to your students would they even know what the fuck I was talking about? Did you tell me on them? You remember what this forum is all about, don’t you?

Oh that’s right, you have me on ignore. Running and hiding and blocking out what challenges you to actually think again. Who’s the gutless coward here?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6411 "2017-10-08T05:03:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Nobody said it was a major concern. Explain why it’s can’t be a civil right.

> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Explain why it should be.

Because personal autonomy in one’s choice of habiliment _among other matters of personal behavior_ is arguably a cornerstone of the right to privacy (or, if that offends you for some reason, Justice Brandeis’s prescription “the right to be left alone”). Many liberals AND conservatives (although far fewer reactionaries, such as you) support the enshrinement of the right to privacy as a civil right. There is precious little justification for dismissing the concept of personal privacy as a civil right with ridicule, and a great deal of justification for including personal autonomy as a legitimate subset of personal privacy.

Now, I’m sure we would all be fascinated to learn your arguments for the preposterousness of privacy and autonomy as civil rights. Or, if you’re not prepared to offer any at this time, an argument for why personal choice of habiliment (which includes degree of same) is subject to ridicule when considered a subset of the latter.

Okay, go.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6412 "2017-10-08T05:07:39Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Our national debate is becoming religious in nature. Everyone wags their finger but doesn’t change their personal behavior. We even have dispensations now! Fly in a private jet, plant a tree, you’re good!

I believe that what you’re describing is more accurately referred to as an _indulgence_.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6413 "2017-10-08T12:12:29Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I agree. But on the other hand, it highlights liberal hypocrisy. Support for women in large groups, but covering for men who victimize them individually. We see the same thing with racial discrimination.

Liberals are saying ‘good fucking riddance’ to Harvey Weinstein - and to Lisa Bloom for defending him. And it was the ‘liberal’ press that exposed Weinstein AND all the serial sexual harassers at Fox News. Meanwhile, the conservative media still finds a place for Bill O’Reilly, not to mention conservatives took a notorious pussy-grabber and put him in the Oval Office.

Liberal hypocrisy, my ass.

(You know who’s defending Weinstein? Matt fucking Drudge: “Harvey Weinstein complicated. Spent magical evening with him at Soho House London talking movie music. Others always said he was pure monster.” Looks like Drudge has deleted that tweet, but I’ve got the screen grab.)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6414 "2017-10-08T13:34:17Z")

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Hey, a little compassion here! The man is horny-toad ugly, and is just succumbing to the biological imperative to get some. Ask **John Mace** or\*\* Vinyl Turnip\*\* sometime to get an insight into the travails of the God Allmighty Ugly. Break yer heart, it will!

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6415 "2017-10-08T14:59:35Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> The posters who have posited the idea are hardly conservatives.

That does not even rise to the level of weak sauce. Come back when you really find Stupid Liberal Ideas. But I’m told only liberals post those.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6416 "2017-10-08T15:21:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Hey, a little compassion here! The man is horny-toad ugly, and is just succumbing to the biological imperative to get some. Ask **John Mace** or\*\* Vinyl Turnip\*\* sometime to get an insight into the travails of the God Allmighty Ugly. Break yer heart, it will!

Hey, compared to Roger Ailes I’m a goddamn dreamboat.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6417 "2017-10-08T15:25:06Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Within the ATA? Or is this in open competition?

ATA

> [@](#):
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> Why should we believe that a picture of someone’s back from a block away supports your account?  
> Like I said, you would have lost no opportunity to humiliate a libtard.

Did you miss the post where I explained that I didn’t have my cell phone on me? Believe me, if I had, I would have video that dingbat as fast as I could have pulled it out of my pocket. As it is, the snap from the back is all I was able to get, so you guys will just have to suck it up and deal with it.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6418 "2017-10-08T16:04:27Z")

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Hey, it is not our problem. You have some idea what happened, which is probably not quite what another person nearby would relate. We do not really know, and do not really care. You just have a longstanding record of being an idiot who is constantly misinterpreting and distorting shit, so we have our doubts.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6419 "2017-10-08T16:08:29Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> ATA

[World Championships.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Taekwondo_Championships)

[World Taekwondo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Taekwondo)

> [@](#):
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> World Taekwondo, called the World Taekwondo Federation until June 2017, is the international federation governing the sport of taekwondo and is a member of the Association of Summer Olympic International Federations (ASOIF)

So how far did all your champions get in open competition?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6420 "2017-10-08T17:20:00Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Hey, compared to Roger Ailes I’m a goddamn dreamboat.

Roger Ails is as ugly as the tumor on a frog’s butt, but he has a gazillion dollars. Do _you_? Then you are just plain ol’ ugly. Sorry.

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