# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 322
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6421 "2017-10-08T17:41:29Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > ATA > Did you miss the post where I explained that I didn’t have my cell phone on me? Believe me, if I had, I would have video that dingbat as fast as I could have pulled it out of my pocket. As it is, the snap from the back is all I was able to get, so you guys will just have to suck it up and deal with it. Or we can just choose not to believe you. You have to admit, the story couldn’t have been any more perfect if you had made it from whole cloth. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6422 "2017-10-08T18:15:19Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Hey, it is not our problem. You have some idea what happened, which is probably not quite what another person nearby would relate. We do not really know, and do not really care. You just have a longstanding record of being an idiot who is constantly misinterpreting and distorting shit, so we have our doubts. No, actually, I don’t. I have a longstanding record of annoying liberals who then turn around and claim that I misinterpret or distort stuff, when I don’t. After the lie gets repeated long enough, it get believed as truth. But hey, that’s the liberal way. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6423 "2017-10-08T18:20:10Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [World Championships.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Taekwondo_Championships) > > [World Taekwondo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Taekwondo) > So how far did all your champions get in open competition? Open competition is not the be-all and end-all of Taekwondo. We do have several folks who compete in open competitions and my understanding is that they do quite well. However, as of this year, USA Taekwondo has announced that they will be inviting ATA competitors to train and compete for a spot on the Olympic team. They have also modified their rules and have brought them more in line with what we do. IMNSHO, they still need to make a few more changes, but that’s just my $0.02 worth. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6424 "2017-10-08T18:22:16Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Or we can just choose not to believe you. You have to admit, the story couldn’t have been any more perfect if you had made it from whole cloth. Or you could choose to believe me, even after I provided the best evidence that I could. But if you want to allow your bigotry to blind you to reality, that’s not really my problem. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6425 "2017-10-08T18:24:41Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Open competition is not the be-all and end-all of Taekwondo. We do have several folks who compete in open competitions and my understanding is that they do quite well. > > However, as of this year, USA Taekwondo has announced that they will be inviting ATA competitors to train and compete for a spot on the Olympic team. They have also modified their rules and have brought them more in line with what we do. IMNSHO, they still need to make a few more changes, but that’s just my $0.02 worth. Quite well is not World Champ. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6426 "2017-10-08T18:54:26Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No, actually, I don’t. I have a longstanding record of annoying liberals who then turn around and claim that I misinterpret or distort stuff, when I don’t. After the lie gets repeated long enough, it get believed as truth. But hey, that’s the liberal way. Nope, that is the current conservative Republican way, and adopted with more vigor ever since Trump was elected. [http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2016/11/10/so-youve-elected-a-conspiracy-theorist/](http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2016/11/10/so-youve-elected-a-conspiracy-theorist/) > [@](#): > > The most important thing to realize about CTs is that they project their worst impulses onto others. Over the years studying denialists and CTs the pattern that emerges over and over is that they routinely commit the wrongs do what they accuse others of doing. The way the CT believes the world works, and how power is wielded, is how they would wield power if they were in control. Take, for example, Mike Adams, regarded by some skeptics as the internet’s number one crank for his work at Natural News. Adams routinely accuses medical doctors and scientists of crimes against humanity, selling medications which do not work and only make us sicker etc. > > However, a brief foray into his activities show that he is the one who recommends obviously useless medical therapies for profit and incites violence. After studying CTs for years, one sees this behavior replicated again and again, the projection of the CTs own worst behaviors onto others. Need more examples? Look no further than Mike’s competition for number one internet crank Alex Jones, who shouts to the heavens over unending lying by politicians and the media while peddling in an unending torrent of false stories and lies, including Sandy Hook truthism, 9/11 truth, chemtrails, and whatever other conspiratorial nonsense he can find. No national tragedy can occur without Alex Jones instantly inventing a CT narrative from whole cloth, with no evidence, yet everyone else is the liar. His list of beliefs reads like a Hieronymus Bosch painting, and there is ample evidence our president-elect goes to him for news. > > So far the empirical evidence assembled by journalists like Kurt Eichenwald suggest the president-elect is no different. > > \*\*Almost every single thing he has claimed about his opponent more accurately described how he ran his business and his life, including crooked business deals, a self-enriching charity, mass deletion of emails in violation of court orders, and an astounding record assembled by fact checkers this year of unending lies for political gain. His opponent’s crimes were actually his crimes. We should not be surprised. The fact that he is conspiracy theorist told us everything we needed to know. It told us he would be promiscuous in his beliefs, unskilled or unwilling to distinguish between fact and fiction, and willing to believe and promote any falsehood if consistent with his ideological bent. \*\*That his prevailing ideology seems to only be “I am great” makes me wonder if the secret to his support is just to stroke his ego, and he’ll promote whatever nonsense you like. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6427 "2017-10-09T00:53:50Z")
And Weinstein has been fired. > **[Harvey Weinstein Terminated From Weinstein Company](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/harvey-weinstein-at-weinstein-1046874/)** > > The board made the decision to oust the mogul from his company at a meeting held Sunday afternoon after sexual harassment claims were made. Sorry, **adaher**. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6428 "2017-10-09T08:46:12Z")
I don’t know why y’all are making such a big deal of this lawnmower story. Frankly I think it’s a far sadder statement about **Clothahump** if it’s true, in that he’s reduced to recounting “random strangers in the street” stories to find something to put in this thread. Meanwhile, the SRIOTD thread is filled with statements and actions from the President, his cabinet, and Congress. Let the man have that one feeble, soggy straw to grasp. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6429 "2017-10-09T12:25:23Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > And Weinstein has been fired. > > [Harvey Weinstein Terminated from Weinstein Company](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/harvey-weinstein-at-weinstein-1046874) > > Sorry, **adaher**. But … “when you’re a star, they let you do it”, I thought we’d been told. You even get elected. Hey, **adaher** , still waiting to find the part where you determined Weinstein was getting protected because of his alleged political stands, just like you and your President. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6430 "2017-10-09T13:43:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I don’t know why y’all are making such a big deal of this lawnmower story. Frankly I think it’s a far sadder statement about **Clothahump** if it’s true, in that he’s reduced to recounting “random strangers in the street” stories to find something to put in this thread. Meanwhile, the SRIOTD thread is filled with statements and actions from the President, his cabinet, and Congress. > > Let the man have that one feeble, soggy straw to grasp. Even sadder, he declared that a thread win for himself. Add the fact that almost all the legitimate SLIs were posted by liberals. He couldn’t even find the good stuff on his own without help from the enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6431 "2017-10-09T14:07:25Z")
[Liberal media is butthurt because Trump doesn’t own a dog](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/donald-trump-doesn-apos-t-143500914.html) Of all the genuinely despicable things to criticize Trump about, this is the runt of the litter. Their constant hounding of anything Trump does makes me melan-collie. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6432 "2017-10-09T14:16:27Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > [Liberal media is butthurt because Trump doesn’t own a dog](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/donald-trump-doesn-apos-t-143500914.html) > > Of all the genuinely despicable things to criticize Trump about, this is the runt of the litter. Their constant hounding of anything Trump does makes me melan-collie. One more pun, and I’m going to have to bitch-slap you. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6433 "2017-10-09T14:18:55Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > [Liberal media is butthurt because Trump doesn’t own a dog](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/donald-trump-doesn-apos-t-143500914.html) > > Of all the genuinely despicable things to criticize Trump about, this is the runt of the litter. Their constant hounding of anything Trump does makes me melan-collie. That seemed more tongue-in-cheek than bitchy. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6434 "2017-10-09T14:23:02Z")
That’s pretty much at the “glorified blog” level of media but yes, it’s a stupid idea. I suspect even the author knows it’s a stupid idea but hey, he gets paid for content, not quality. On the other hand, one can only imagine Trump with a dog: “Who’s a good boy? Who’s the **best** boy ever? Who _can’t believe_ how great a boy he is? _You_ are! Believe me!” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6435 "2017-10-09T14:30:36Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > That’s pretty much at the “glorified blog” level of media but yes, it’s a stupid idea. I suspect even the author knows it’s a stupid idea but hey, he gets paid for content, not quality. > > On the other hand, one can only imagine Trump with a dog: “Who’s a good boy? Who’s the **best** boy ever? Who _can’t believe_ how great a boy he is? **_You_ are!** Believe me!” Substitute “_I_ Am!” ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6436 "2017-10-09T14:43:21Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I don’t know why y’all are making such a big deal of this lawnmower story. Frankly I think it’s a far sadder statement about **Clothahump** if it’s true, in that he’s reduced to recounting “random strangers in the street” stories to find something to put in this thread. Meanwhile, the SRIOTD thread is filled with statements and actions from the President, his cabinet, and Congress. > > Let the man have that one feeble, soggy straw to grasp. Has anyone ever figured out why **Mr. Hump** assumes the lawnmower girl was a liberal? Was it just because she didn’t kneel down and begin fellating the totem of **Mr. Hump** ’s magnificent right-wing manhood? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6437 "2017-10-09T14:46:56Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Has anyone ever figured out why **Mr. Hump** assumes the lawnmower girl was a liberal? Was it just because she didn’t kneel down and begin fellating the totem of **Mr. Hump** ’s magnificent right-wing manhood? Pollution is a liberal concern. Manly right-wingers don’t care if the entire globe is a toxic waste dump. Profits! ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6438 "2017-10-09T17:00:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Quite well is not World Champ. World Champ is World Champ. Open competition is not the definition. In ATA, when you compete regionally and nationally and earn enough points to be listed in the top 10, you are then eligible to compete for the title of World Champ. And there will be people in that top 10 from all over the world. At last World Championships, the Tournament of Champions division that I was a judge in had somewhere around 20 people competing in four separate events. IIRC, only a little more than half of them were from the USA. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6439 "2017-10-09T17:02:34Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > World Champ is World Champ. Open competition is not the definition. > > In ATA, when you compete regionally and nationally and earn enough points to be listed in the top 10, you are then eligible to compete for the title of World Champ. And there will be people in that top 10 from all over the world. > > At last World Championships, the Tournament of Champions division that I was a judge in had somewhere around 20 people competing in four separate events. IIRC, only a little more than half of them were from the USA. All within the ATA. Anybody make the Olympics? Or the real World Champs? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6440 "2017-10-09T17:51:04Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Even sadder, he declared that a thread win for himself. > > Add the fact that almost all the legitimate SLIs were posted by liberals. He couldn’t even find the good stuff on his own without help from the enemy. You say “enemy”, I say “people who don’t tell blatant lies then ignore those that call them on it.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=321) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=323)