# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 328
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6541 "2017-12-30T21:14:31Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Sure, I got that, and also agree with it. I don’t think anybody’s against that. Why anybody would be against it :smack: > > But explain these for a start: > > “I’m always moving. I’m moving in both directions.” > “The chain is the last guy that killed.” > “They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out.” > > If the idea is presented in a confused way, I don’t trust it’ll be executed less confused, no matter how much I agree with the sentiment behind it. > So unless you are a complete idiot, to support trump you MUST understand what he means, not only “what” but also “how”, “why” etc. And if you do, then you can explain these. If you can’t, be a man and admit it. > > Or are you going to take the coward’s way once again? Alex, I’ll take ‘Organisms with Straw-colored Undercarriages’ for $200. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6542 "2017-12-31T03:20:05Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Sure, I got that, and also agree with it. I don’t think anybody’s against that. Why anybody would be against it :smack: > > But explain these for a start: > > “I’m always moving. I’m moving in both directions.” > “The chain is the last guy that killed.” > “They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out.” > > If the idea is presented in a confused way, I don’t trust it’ll be executed less confused, no matter how much I agree with the sentiment behind it. > So unless you are a complete idiot, to support trump you MUST understand what he means, not only “what” but also “how”, “why” etc. And if you do, then you can explain these. If you can’t, be a man and admit it. > > Or are you going to take the coward’s way once again? You’re asking too much of him. All he sees in that post is “liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather liberal blather” ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6543 "2017-12-31T06:25:45Z")
… and Spam. (Sorry, that was pretty much a reflex response to **Knowed Out** ’s eloquence.) ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6544 "2017-12-31T17:42:16Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Why wouldn’t I reply? And I don’t agree with Trump on everything. Whatever gave you that idea? Oh, right - liberal. > > And since you can’t understand what he said, I’ll boil it down for you: stop illegal immigration. That I do agree with him on. Well, considering chain migration and the lottery are legal immigration, I’m going to have to say you’re wrong there. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6545 "2017-12-31T17:48:10Z")
> [@Taber](#): > > Well, considering chain migration and the lottery are legal immigration, I’m going to have to say you’re wrong there. He’s talking about undocumented immigrants. You know, the ones who clean the hotel room when he travels, the ones who bus the tables when he eats out, the ones who fix his roof, the ones who clean the bathrooms at the local business park. Those leeches. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6546 "2017-12-31T17:52:27Z")
What I want to know is how the effing hell anyone knows what trump was mumbling? Sounds like he was eating a parking meter to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6547 "2017-12-31T17:53:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Mr. **C**. has requested I fill in for him as he’s recovering from another kick to the head. (Those 6 year old black belts can be savage) > _taps microphone_ “Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?” > _clears throat_ > “Fuck off.” Was he too busy with his anti-bullying classes to respond? The irony, it burns ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6548 "2017-12-31T18:42:29Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Actually, they kinda agree with him. Paraphrasing the article: “Trump hasn’t gone nearly as far as the Nazis in promoting his vision of the holidays and there are major flaws in describing Trump as a Nazi-like figure.” He’s so ingrained with the Trumpeteers that he can’t see that. That said, Trump jumping into the fray on the whole “War on Christmas” thing is just bizarre. I’ve worked for about a dozen businesses in NYC since I moved there in 1980. And we always sent Seasons Greetings/Joy to the World/ Peace On Earth /Happy Holidays greeting cards. And the reason was clear - every single company I’ve ever worked for in NYC had Jewish ownership. And 75% or so of our clients were Jewish. And over half of the professional level employees. And Trump has spent his life working in the upper echelons of New York City real estate and finance, where pretty much everyone is Jewish. His scrawny rabbit-faced daughter with the big fake boobs is Jewish. Her children are Jewish. Even though she tweeted a Merry Christmas greeting. Because she’s a tool, too. And Trump knows this. I know he is sadly lacking in any intellectual curiosity regarding any subject that doesn’t involve making money or hate or hurting people and comparative religion isn’t his strong suit, but even he HAS to know that Jewish people don’t celebrate Christmas. And that the War On Christmas BS isn’t about political correctness, it’s anti-Semitic- especially when you wage that war against the backdrop of NY real estate and finance. I’m willing to bet the Trump Organization never sent out a Holiday card that said Merry Christmas. It just isn’t done. At first I thought he was fighting for Christmas so he could beat up on Macy’s. But he didn’t do that. So it’s just bizarre but I’m probably overthinking. The idiot is just mindlessly repeating Fox News memes ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6549 "2017-12-31T20:08:29Z")
I don’t think Trump’s War on XMas is directed against Jews. He’s just echoing the same thing conswerveative pundits have been yelling for years to make it look like he’s keeping a campaign promise. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6550 "2017-12-31T20:48:21Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > …His scrawny rabbit-faced daughter with the big fake boobs is Jewish… Wait. Implants are _kosher_? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6551 "2017-12-31T20:52:02Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I don’t think Trump’s War on XMas is directed against Jews. He’s just echoing the same thing conswerveative pundits have been yelling for years to make it look like he’s keeping a campaign promise. I know that, that’s why the whole thing is bizarre in a way it wouldn’t be if he was a real estate tycoon in Louisiana or Kansas. I know he’s led an extremely secular life with nary a thought about religion until he found it advantageous to suck up to the evangelical right. But I honestly think he doesn’t know that Jewish people - even the ones he knows - really don’t celebrate Christmas. They aren’t just pretending not to because they are godless liberals that want to offend Sean Hannity. They really don’t and they never have. Not even in the ‘50’s when America was great before the liberals ruined it with civil rights. And Trump knows a lot of Jewish people. Whether he knows it or not. It’s the same sort of WTF I got when I read about Mike Pence officiating at Mnuchin’s wedding. Because Mnuchin is Jewish. And Pence is the opposite of Jewish. And the same WTF I get when Ivanka tweets “Merry Christmas”. It’s just that weird alternate reality thing again. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6552 "2017-12-31T20:52:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait. Implants are _kosher_? They’re filled with either saline or silicone. The question is does she chew her cud? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6553 "2017-12-31T21:14:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > {…} The question is does she chew her cud? I’m really hoping we can avoid what rabbits _actually_ do and “camel toes”! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6554 "2017-12-31T21:20:05Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I But I honestly think he doesn’t know that Jewish people - even the ones he knows - really don’t celebrate Christmas. Christmas is a time when people of all religions come together to worship Jesus Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6555 "2017-12-31T21:38:38Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > The idiot is just mindlessly repeating Fox News memes This, sadly, is what the Republican Party has been reduced to. The one who started this lame thread is my cite. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6556 "2017-12-31T22:23:26Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > THis scrawny rabbit-faced daughter with the big fake boobs is Jewish. Her children are Jewish. Is that correct? “Jewish” is an ethnicity, which follows a maternal line. Is Ivana ethnically Jewish? Because if she is a shiksa, so is Mutanka, as well as her kits. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6557 "2017-12-31T22:25:18Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > This, sadly, is what the Republican Party has been reduced to. The one who started this lame thread is my cite. “I made doody in my diapee. Deal with it.” —_The Past, Future, and quite possibly Present **Clothahump** _ ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6558 "2017-12-31T23:30:52Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Is that correct? “Jewish” is an ethnicity, which follows a maternal line. Is Ivana ethnically Jewish? Because if she is a shiksa, so is Mutanka, as well as her kits. She converted when she married Jared Kushner ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6559 "2018-01-01T01:07:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait. Implants are _kosher_? As long as you keep the meat and dairy separate. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6560 "2018-01-01T04:21:59Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > She converted when she married Jared Kushner Yes, she did. Here’s some little article where she talks about observing the Sabbath and how awesome it is to get to turn your phone off for a whole day and cook food (for some reason she equates cooking for your husband as a Jewish thing. > **[Ivanka Trump Opens Up About Converting to Orthodox Judaism](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/ivanka-trump-opens-converting-orthodox-judaism/story?id=29244637)** > > “It’s been such a great life decision for me," she said. And here’s her Christmas tweet, complete with little tree emojis. The phrasing is odd, it’s like maybe she’s trying to say “I don’t do Christmas but if you do, have a good one.” —-without mentioning that she doesn’t celebrate Christmas. > This is one of those little Trumpian things that bugs the crap out of me. Because I’m sure she was subtlety bullied into tweeting that. Probably Bannon got to Trump and stuck a bug up his ass about Ivanka not saying Merry Christmas hard enough and set him off. Then the handlers had to contact Ivanka and tell her she needed to send a Christmas tweet. Even though she’s Jewish. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=327) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=329)