# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 342
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6821 "2018-01-22T04:08:27Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Good Lord, haven’t you people heard of extension cords? Haven’t you heard of copper thieves? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6822 "2018-01-22T06:05:34Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > It sounds to me like the LAPD just refuses to try new things. If the numbers are right, then they are paying 10mill for 300 cars, so that’s $33k per car. That’s not a bad price, especially for a BMW. Even better: it’s for the cars plus the required infrastructure. The real problem with electric vehicles these days is the lack of a standardized charging connector. Not that the City of Los Angeles had a bad idea but had they been able to install infrastructure that everyone could use… ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6823 "2018-01-23T00:00:13Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Even better: it’s for the cars plus the required infrastructure. > > The real problem with electric vehicles these days is the lack of a standardized charging connector. Not that the City of Los Angeles had a bad idea but had they been able to install infrastructure that everyone could use… Not sure what you mean by that. The SAE J1772 connection is pretty standard. > [@](#): > > A task force assembled by SAE International, an organization of scientists and vehicle engineers, developed the design specifications for the J1772 standard through a committee of 150 carmakers, electrical equipment makers and utilities. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6824 "2018-01-23T09:59:30Z")
> **[Top paediatrician says it's time to give parents extra votes for their children](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/23/top-paediatrician-says-its-time-to-give-parents-extra-votes-for-their-children)** > > Issues from child poverty to obesity are being neglected by government, says Prof Neena Modi Top UK paediatrician wants to combat so-called “child poverty”:dubious: by giving breeders extra votes.:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6825 "2018-01-23T10:13:13Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > [Top paediatrician says it's time to give parents extra votes for their children | Obesity | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/23/top-paediatrician-says-its-time-to-give-parents-extra-votes-for-their-children) > > Top UK paediatrician wants to combat so-called “child poverty”:dubious: by giving breeders extra votes.:smack: It’s a really stupid idea (assuming Modi is seriously proposing it) but I’m not sure why you’re awarding a :dubious: to “child poverty”. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6826 "2018-01-23T10:47:17Z")
“If ‘children’ don’t like being poor they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get fucking jobs!” CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6827 "2018-01-23T13:40:21Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > [Democrats Add Momentum to G.O.P. Push to Loosen Banking Rules.](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/us/politics/democrats-banking-rules.html) > > Hellworld just keeps getting toastier. > … > The Russia scaremongering is the stupid liberal idea of the year. I think it’s cool that Democrats have turned into the Tea Party, and the Tea Party turned into schizophrenics. We’re so fucked. 😕 Are you in the right thread? It sounds like you’re Pitting Democrats for NOT being liberal. That’s OK, I guess. Many of the “stupid liberal ideas” in this peculiar thread are of that character. Yawn! … the most excitement in this thread is the on-going bodice ripper story about the developing romance (à la Marquis de Sade?) between Lawnmower Girl and our Very Stable Genius. Let me know when that heats up. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6828 "2018-01-23T16:10:01Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Not sure what you mean by that. The SAE J1772 connection is pretty standard. I recently heard a generally reliable talk radio host complain about how cell phones can use any micro-USB cable but a Prius owner can’t use a charging station meant for, say, a Fusion. Perhaps he was working from outdated information. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6829 "2018-01-23T19:06:23Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > …a generally reliable talk radio host… There’s a combination of words I’m not used to reading. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6830 "2018-01-23T19:33:30Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > I recently heard a generally reliable talk radio host complain about how cell phones can use any micro-USB cable but a Prius owner can’t use a charging station meant for, say, a Fusion. Perhaps he was working from outdated information. It’s just not true. My wife’s Prius Prime uses the same connection as my Volt. And every car I see at the charging stations I use are all plugging in to the same facility. The possible exception is the Tesla, but I believe they can use the same connector with an adapter. Yep, just checked their website: > [@](#): > > New Teslas include the following as standard equipment: > > ``` > Mobile Connector (20 feet) > Adapter for standard 120 volt household outlets (NEMA 5-15) > Adapter for higher power 240 volt outlet (NEMA 14-50) > Adapter for public charging stations (SAE J1772) > Cable organizing bag > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6831 "2018-01-23T20:29:23Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > There’s a combination of words I’m not used to reading. [Paul Harris](http://paulharrisonline.blogspot.com/) bills himself as “talk radio for people who don’t listen to talk radio”. No politics, no politicians, and no great debates like gun control or abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6832 "2018-01-23T20:30:26Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It’s just not true. My wife’s Prius Prime uses the same connection as my Volt. And every car I see at the charging stations I use are all plugging in to the same facility. The possible exception is the Tesla, but I believe they can use the same connector with an adapter. Working from outdated info, then. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6833 "2018-01-23T23:26:50Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > The Democrats should introduce a bill that authorizes Trump to build any wall he wants. As long as it’s funded by Mexico. > > That was the campaign promise, after all. No one voted for him to get a U.S. funded wall Yea! They finally said it: > [@](#): > > Sen. Patrick Leahy, who was among the Democrats voting against reopening the government Monday, said that either the Department of Homeland Security should pay for building the wall with its own existing budget or they can get Mexico to pay for it, a reference to an oft-repeated Trump campaign pledge. > “They can pay for it out of there, if they think it’s so important,” said Leahy, the top Democrat on the Appropriations Committee. “Or they could do my other suggestion. **He’s pledged, given his word, that Mexico will pay for it because he’s very good at the art of the deal and so on. Let’s just open up a special account, as Mexico pays in for the Trump wall, they can build it.** ” ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6834 "2018-01-24T05:48:02Z")
You guys are hijacking **Humpy** ’s thread. I just noticed a real stupid liberal idea that **Clothy** ( **Humpy**? — what’s his preferred nickname?) should be happy to comment on. The liberal media is suddenly incensed that the Great Commander-in-Chief and Nation’s Top Law Enforcement Officer asked top FBI officials whom they voted for. :smack: Why in heaven’s name would we want Federal employees who don’t want to **Make America Great Again**? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6835 "2018-01-24T06:10:34Z")
Seriously, dude, if you have difficulty handling that many syllables, just shorten it to **Cl’ump**. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6836 "2018-01-24T09:25:39Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Seriously, dude, if you have difficulty handling that many syllables, just shorten it to **Cl’ump**. I’ve also seen him referred to as **C’hump** ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6837 "2018-01-24T14:06:42Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Not sure what you mean by that. The SAE J1772 connection is pretty standard. J1772 is standard, but it’s only Level-2, which is 240V AC and usually 30A max. It takes several hours to fully charge an electric car with a Level-2 charger. It’s perfectly adequate for overnight or all-day (workplace) charging, but it’s not fast enough for the “stop in the middle of a road trip and charge the car while you have coffee” scenario. Most purely electric cars have DC Fast Charge capability, but that’s where the standards diverge. Japanese cars use CHADEMO, European and American cars mostly use SAE Combo, except for Tesla who has their own Supercharger. These are all incompatible. According to [this article](https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/8/11883946/bmw-i3-electric-car-lapd-sustainable-city-plan), the LAPD did install 4 DC fast charge stations for their BMW i3 fleet. Those would have to have the SAE Combo chargers, so they aren’t usable by Tesla or Nissan Leaf. ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6838 "2018-01-24T17:04:05Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > J1772 is standard, but it’s only Level-2, which is 240V AC and usually 30A max. It takes several hours to fully charge an electric car with a Level-2 charger. It’s perfectly adequate for overnight or all-day (workplace) charging, but it’s not fast enough for the “stop in the middle of a road trip and charge the car while you have coffee” scenario. > > Most purely electric cars have DC Fast Charge capability, but that’s where the standards diverge. Japanese cars use CHADEMO, European and American cars mostly use SAE Combo, except for Tesla who has their own Supercharger. These are all incompatible. > > According to [this article](https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/8/11883946/bmw-i3-electric-car-lapd-sustainable-city-plan), the LAPD did install 4 DC fast charge stations for their BMW i3 fleet. Those would have to have the SAE Combo chargers, so they aren’t usable by Tesla or Nissan Leaf. Leaf owner here. The majority of fast chargers i have seen have both. The LAPD may not go that way, but if they subcontracted to one of the charging vendors, it would probably have both plugs available. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6839 "2018-01-24T21:32:37Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > You guys are hijacking **Humpy** ’s thread. > > I just noticed a real stupid liberal idea that **Clothy** ( **Humpy**? — what’s his preferred nickname?) That would be Clothahump. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/6840 "2018-01-24T21:33:37Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That would be Clothahump. You don’t have a say in this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=341) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=343)