# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 354
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7061 "2018-04-30T15:03:11Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > What makes you think I hang out in that universe? Egads, I just love people who make stupid-ass assumptions about me. > > Not by a long shot. As usual, your reading comprehension is a bit shaky. The guys I work with who are very much like you are so because of their complete inability to sort fact from right-wing fiction. Perhaps you don’t get all your news from Fox, Limbaugh, or World Nut Daily. If so, then as near as I can tell, you get your information from sources with even less credibility. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7062 "2018-04-30T15:05:07Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I noticed in that link that there’s a reference to a Jordan Sekulow. Wonder if there’s a connection to Jay Sekulow, Trump’s lawyer. Doesn’t seem like it would be a very common name. [Jorndan’s Jay’s son](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Sekulow) Which you could have looked up on your own dumbass\* \*Obligatory insult included as a lesson in pit etiquette for Tall Poppy ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7063 "2018-04-30T15:45:46Z")
> [@TallPoppy](#): > > Okay, originally, I was simply thinking of the protected class of information that an employer can’t discriminate against: > Race, age, religious beliefs, disability, marital status, sexual orientation, or pregnancy. > Not sure how a proper interview would digress to the point of knowing someone is a bigot… > > If I was to ask anyone about the above things when conducting an interview, I would be opening myself up to a potential discrimination suit if I asked anything about those things & then didn’t hire the person. Then, my employer would obviously fire me for that. You can’t hire candidates based on _their_ race, age, religious beliefs, and so forth. You are free to ask candidates if _they_ can hire, retain, promote and evaluate candidates without regard to their underlings’ race, age, religious beliefs, etc. For example… Interviewer: Mr. Jobcandidate, do you feel that same-sex relationships are a perversion? Candidate: Yes, I do. Interviewer: Could you treat homosexual employees fairly if you were in a position of authority over them? This exchange is perfectly okay. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7064 "2018-04-30T16:48:44Z")
Bigot is not a protected class. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7065 "2018-04-30T16:56:34Z")
It can be if you dress it in religious garb. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7066 "2018-04-30T16:58:01Z")
Pinky-swearing they believe in magic makes some believe they should get a pass. Very strange. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7067 "2018-04-30T17:01:12Z")
Just change “I hate gays” to “God tells us He hates gays” and you’re good to go. It’s even more convincing if you tell yourself that first. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7068 "2018-04-30T18:08:10Z")
We had a guy at work who had aspirations of being a proselytute. We told him “_Not on the floor_” (where we did our jobs). Breakroom, yeah, you can rant all you want in there, but keep it off the floor. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7069 "2018-04-30T21:48:09Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I noticed in that link that there’s a reference to a Jordan Sekulow. Wonder if there’s a connection to Jay Sekulow, Trump’s lawyer. Doesn’t seem like it would be a very common name. You really have to wonder that? Jay Sekulow, the guy who’s now Trump’s lawyer, founded the ACLJ, the evil twin of the ACLU. Jordan, mentioned in that article because he’s executive director of the ACLJ, is Jay’s son. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7070 "2018-04-30T22:02:08Z")
American Civil Liberties J’s? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7071 "2018-04-30T22:17:52Z")
American Civil LiveJournal? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7072 "2018-04-30T23:07:15Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Based on the available information, what other kind assumptions do you expect people to make about a stupid ass? I saw what you did there. It fell flat on its face. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7073 "2018-05-01T01:13:10Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > American Civil Liberties J’s? American Center for Law & Justice. I’m actually surprised that they didn’t pick something even closer to ACLU, like American Center for Law & Virtue or something. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7074 "2018-05-01T02:00:43Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I saw what you did there. It fell flat on its face. Which means it is hardly lonely amongst the 241 posts of yours that are lying face-down in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7075 "2018-05-01T02:12:51Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > You really have to wonder that? Jay Sekulow, the guy who’s now Trump’s lawyer, founded the ACLJ, the evil twin of the ACLU. Jordan, mentioned in that article because he’s executive director of the ACLJ, is Jay’s son. My laptop died, and I’ve been using my phone for all internet activities. Trying to research on it is a phenomenally frustrating experience. Thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![TallPoppy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@TallPoppy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TallPoppy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7076 "2018-05-04T21:35:01Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, if you’re serious about that, the Great Debates forum is your better bet. You could start a thread titled “Are these fair question to ask a cabinet nominee?” and while the responses may get emotional at times, the responses by and large, I predict, will be literate and well-argued. > > The Pit is for laughs and sneers and oodles of abuse. It has its purposes. Makes sense. I do think I’ll pass on making that thread though! haha I can see the purposes, no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![TallPoppy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@TallPoppy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TallPoppy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7077 "2018-05-04T21:38:13Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > **TallPoppy** , may I infer from the wording of your posts that you, personally, actually conduct employment interviews where you work? > > If so, would you mind sharing what the jobs are, for which you interview candidates? Yes, you are correct. I’m a hiring manager for surgical services, which includes these positions: RN’s for recovery room, operating room, and charge positions, surgical techs, and sterile processing techs. I also play a role in recruitment of new physicians. ---
**Author:** ![TallPoppy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@TallPoppy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TallPoppy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7078 "2018-05-04T21:51:48Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > But, if you are hiring someone who will be in charge of hiring, disciplining, and terminating employees, then asking them whether or not they can do so without being influenced by racial prejudices is very relevant, and not in any way protected by discrimination laws. > > When they will be influential in diplomacy, and they will be helping to decide which countries we will be bombing, it is even more relevant. I get what you are saying. I have been in group interviews to choose someone at that level, and we ask things like how they handle conflict objectively, and what style of leader are you? Another more tactful way to cover the racial topic could be, “how do you view diversity in the workplace”? Not, “do you think gay sex is perverse???” I still think that guy I was talking about last week, with my “old news” comment, was unprofessional to talk that way. If a conservative interviewed an openly gay man running for a high ranking government position, and said "what do you think about heterosexual sex? or “do you feel that Christian immigrants from the middle east should have equal opportunity to come to the U.S., or would you chose Muslims first?”, can you imagine the outcries and the news stories that would get? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7079 "2018-05-05T01:15:41Z")
> [@TallPoppy](#): > > I get what you are saying. I have been in group interviews to choose someone at that level, and we ask things like how they handle conflict objectively, and what style of leader are you? Another more tactful way to cover the racial topic could be, “how do you view diversity in the workplace”? > > Not, “do you think gay sex is perverse???” > > I still think that guy I was talking about last week, with my “old news” comment, was unprofessional to talk that way. If a conservative interviewed an openly gay man running for a high ranking government position, and said "what do you think about heterosexual sex? or “do you feel that Christian immigrants from the middle east should have equal opportunity to come to the U.S., or would you chose Muslims first?”, can you imagine the outcries and the news stories that would get? Are you trying to ask serious questions, after passing on the idea to ask them in a forum with the greater chance to get serious answers? Obvious you don’t care to be taken seriously, and are angling instead for the title of Disingenuous Dumbass #34, i.e. Yet Another Trump Voter. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7080 "2018-05-05T01:24:12Z")
> [@TallPoppy](#): > > I’m a hiring manager for surgical services, which includes these positions: RN’s for recovery room, operating room, and charge positions, surgical techs, and sterile processing techs. I also play a role in recruitment of new physicians. That sounds like a field where hiring hard-line bigots would be a very bad idea. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=353) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=355)